Hah Manfranko Frank The Elder. My qoutes were nowt more than tools to highlight the differances that I talk about and should not be taken as indicative of any stance I hold.
Although you say that you would take no pleasure in the destruiction of your enemies, I guess we both know some people who would? Which again serves to highlight my real point, I agree with you on the above, and in addition I state that 'my way' is correct moraly and ethicaly, ahhh but what about those who hold the opposite opionion from you and I? What if they have logical, consitant and reasonable arguements for their cause? How to live, work and goveren a world full of such veried peoples and mindsets, thats really what I'm after. And that it needs to be a world wide effert, I have no doubts about. On 3 Oct, 07:02, Manfraco Frank the Elder <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Lee Pat and others of the group! > Lee, I see your sense of survival is very strong in you, otherwise you > could not think of your first clause, <To crush your enemies, see them > driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women'> > To me there is no joy in seeing my enemy destroyed, just because in > destroying my enemy I have also destroyed part of humanity and their > belongings; so humanity will be worse off from it. > For me the best in life is to be: healthy, wealthy and wise; if you > can have these three things with you, you can have the best of all > lives. > Pat, you seem to think that God would really do something if we would > follow your Torah laws, I don’t think so, and your religious group may > not be in God’s priorities anyhow, although I agree that if we follow > those rules, which are much the same in other religions we would be > better off. > So, I believe that one has to try to make the best of whatever one can > have and enjoy life while you can, that all one can do? > Greetings and regards to you all, > Manfraco. > > On Oct 2, 2:42 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On 1 Oct, 13:25, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Well apart from the obviouse: > > > > 'To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the > > > lamentation of their women' > > > > Or the less known but still as obviouse: > > > > 'Hot water,good dentishtry and shoft lavatory paper' > > > > What is best in life? This follows from the threads about honour and > > > subjectivity and morality. > > > > I, as we all know, celebrate the differances we all have, I claim on > > > the back of such wide and veried 'mindsets' that humanity will never > > > think as one, read from the same page, sing from the same hymsheet or > > > however else you care to put it. So we can infer from such a > > > statement that I simply do not belive that any kind of 'one plan fits > > > all' will work, be that politics, or religion or philosophy or any > > > other aspect of life. > > > Unless a group of like-minded indiviuals wipe out all the > > competition. I can speculate enough to see THAT as a possibility. In > > fact, it's not far off from the predicted/prophesied armageddon > > scenario. And, the REASON behind some of the harsher treatments for > > those who broke the Torah laws, i.e., so that only like-minded people > > existed. > > > > In the interests of experimentation though I would like to approach > > > this from the other end, what kinds of ideals or principles or morals > > > or vaules can be said to encompass the whole of humanity? > > > 1) God exists. > > 2) God is One. > > 3) We are OF that One. Therefore: > > 4) We should act to protect ourself by protecting others (a form of > > 'Golden Rule') > > > And if we ALL practiced and believed as above, the world would be a > > FAR better place than it is now. Unfortunately, as I've said earlier > > (as well as here, above), that may take a bit of a cull in order to > > get to a 'like-minded society'. > > > > Love is one, I suspect, yet can that be true? Even when it comes to > > > loving and being loved we all still have seperate ideas about just > > > what is good about love. > > > > What (as the saying goes) do you think?- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
