Often posts suggesting a better way of thinking, living, being etc. is
not only possible but is necessary show up here. Being immersed in
idealism myself, I thought a thread where we could ‘work’, in the
sense of finding agreement, might be at best helpful -  at worst,
informative.

To that end, and with the hope of not getting too bogged down in
argumentation, what primary points do we agree upon? The details,
wherein lie both devils and dragons, can be addressed once the basic
structure is codified.

Areas I suggest include:

1.      The right to life. (even though at some point overpopulation will
have to be addressed.)
2.      Liberty. Where does one place limits here, if at all?
3.      Health. How do we as a people help to assure less suffering when it
comes to our bodies and even our emotions and mind?
4.      Justice. How is this determined?


This is only a suggested start. For me, I do not embrace the ‘eye for
an eye’ mentality and find other ‘solutions’ to crime etc. can be
found. So, regardless of human passions, life itself is sacred.

As to liberty, this too can be a large topic, however, servitude not
self imposed seems to be unacceptable to me. What do you think?

Health is a big topic today. Leaving aside the details again, at least
for a while, what specific areas can we agree upon, at least as far as
an ethos is concerned? Is it not preferable for us all to have access
to quality healthcare?

Justice. Something that brings all sorts of beliefs. Often I bring up
the term universality, a concept I learned from Chomsky. In many ways,
it is nothing new and is about identical with things like the Golden
Rule and other well known admonitions and ideals.

Again, I hope for finding a point of unity (agreement), the basics
without which any sort of unified action by humanity seems impossible
save through the use of force, the other option.

As an analogy, I doubt that today’s cell phone would have come into
existence, at least not nearly as soon, without the vision of what was
found in Dick Tracy and/or Buck Rogers. What is your vision, the
basics?

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