India has a latecomer on the solutions are rightly well put--there IEB
goverment should be concern--The global average surface tempeture has risen
o.6-o.2'C and 0.17Cper decade in last 30 yrs..The industrialization very
little to the accumulation of greenhouse -gas emissions that cause global
warming..India Farming  as had such drops and losses in this area because of
their industries--and glad they are coming in ...If the Globel Warming
continues the warming will continue and have more chain reaction to work and
Farming ect.--with temperatures projected to increase by 1.4Cto 5.8C between
1990 and 2100--India is known for their Steel,Engineering and Machine Tools,
Electronics, Textiles...India is a major exporter heavy and light
engineering goods -cement, Fertilizer,mining and Petrochemical and mining
equipment are made in India...This goes back 122 yrs..and they have put in
new plants-Steel at Bhilai,Durgapur and Rourkela-and two more steel plants
Bokaro and Vishakhapatbam--Their Private sector plants, of which the Tata
Iron and Steel and scap..they also have diesel engines ....and now are
making (air pollution control equipments)...In there Electronics---they way
over a billion dollars in this---The problem with Globel Warming ---three
Factor's (CARBON- DIOXIDE AND METHANE) their people in India is very
upset--the farmers are haveing trouble growing as the warming
continues...and many other problems also..dj




On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 4:06 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:

> I would point out Francis, that stirring the shit is environmentally
> unsound (all that methane).  At the back of this stuff is the madness
> of capitalism based on consumption and routine overbreeding.  Science
> as a world-view has not caught on.
>
> On 24 Nov, 23:29, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
> > In fact, I find nothing at all curious about the tactics (resistance)
> > to dealing with things ecological when it comes to China and the US.
> > As far as I can tell, in both cases the real power is to be found in
> > multinational organizations and not provincial local politics. This is
> > yet another example of the results of aspects of capitalism.
> >
> > And, regardless of cause, the effect of climate change is obvious.
> > Here I have little doubt as to the human component when it comes to
> > major aspects of the cause. As fran points out, even if it is just a
> > little ‘help’, unless one is so very skeptical and stolid as to reject
> > all efforts for change, perhaps even based on a belief in the need to
> > cull the herd, quick and committed action is needed quite soon, like
> > yesterday!
> >
> > While not literally true, the myth about putting a frog in cold water
> > and slowly bringing it to a boil is instructive.
> >
> > On Nov 24, 1:17 pm, fran the man <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > On December 7 the climate summit in Copenhagen begins. Already, the
> > > chances of it achieving anything worthwhile seem to be slim. While the
> > > Europeans are pushing for concrete, binding levels of CO2-reduction, a
> > > curious Sino-US alliance (backed by other Asian-Pacific countries)
> > > seem intent on preventing the emergence of anything more than sonorous
> > > platitudes.
> >
> > > I'm well aware that regular posters here have sharply differing views
> > > on global warming, so I thought I might stir the s**t a bit :-) Here's
> > > a link to the latest press release of a group of experts which sees
> > > the situation as being even more dramatic than has been thought up to
> > > now (the link also contains a further link to a download of the full
> > > report in PDF-format).
> >
> > >http://www.copenhagendiagnosis.com/press.html
> >
> > > Of particular concern, it seems to me, are the figures relating to the
> > > melting of the Greenland and Antarctic ice-sheets, as well as the
> > > Arctic sea ice and the consequent rise in sea-levels. If the prognosis
> > > is even half-right here, both Alan and Chris are going to soon have to
> > > put their houses on stilts! (Yes, Chris, I know you're not expecting
> > > it.)
> >
> > > Francis
>
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