Heh yeah, but consider that torture is really a perception thing. If you don't feel pain then is the sticking of things beneath your finger nails torture?
On 2 Dec, 14:30, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > On 2 Dec, 13:29, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Ahhh but then I am of the belife that 'hell' is ignorane of ones link > > with God, and 'Heaven' or 'paradise' is full relalisation of this > > link. > > Whereas I view the two as different 'places' within 'Consciousness > space', which, in my physics, is a part of the Calabi-Yau space and > outside of this space-time--thus eternal. It seems to me that, in > your view, there's the chance that a person who has realised one's > link to God, can still experience things like torture and I can't > reconcile that with any form of paradise. Of course, given your view, > I DO, then, get the picture in my mind of the final scene of 'Life of > Brian', with all those being crucified singing happily 'Always Look on > the Bright Side of Life'. ;-) > > > > > On 2 Dec, 13:09, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 2 Dec, 10:00, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Heh and that my freind is the perposue of religion. Wether you want > > > > to come back or not, you will do so over, and over, and over, and over > > > > again. Until that time comes when you reach for God. > > > > > Heh yes my atheist friends, I will indeed see you in 'heaven' one day. > > > > That depends on the truths inherent in and of 'the hereafter'. It > > > may be that believers are 'protected' from having to witness the > > > relative hell imposed on non-believers (this IS purported by the > > > Qur'an!!), if such a punishment is, indeed, doled out for non-belief, > > > as is purported in many faiths. You have to admit that, for example, > > > it wouldn't be 'paradisiacal' to spend eternity in paradise while able > > > to watch those in Hell suffer. At least it wouldn't be MY view of > > > paradise. I.e., I strongly suspect that, if there is TV in Paradise, > > > there isn't a 'Hell Channel' (or perhaps better 'spin' would call it > > > the 'Divine Justice Channel') where you can take 'God-like > > > schadenfreude' in watching the torture of those who may have been > > > loved ones, relatives and/or friends in our Earth-bound existence. > > > That would imply that taking pleasure in another's pain is a 'gift' of > > > Paradise, and I just can't accept that; to my way of thinking, if an > > > individual is that sadistic, they won't BE in Paradise--or, given > > > God's Mercy, not in a very grand part of Paradise. > > > > > On 2 Dec, 06:04, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I find myself wondering what kind of selfish cretins were are to be > > > > > concerned with this muck. I've needed therapy and am very grateful to > > > > > the nurse who held my hand and led me away from the doctors to a > > > > > psychotherapist. I suspect we could get a lot further by admitting > > > > > the world is screwed. If 'new souling' is possible away from the > > > > > cobblers, what sort of mad dork would want rebirth on this planet? > > > > > > On 2 Dec, 03:23, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > > In my opinion the most fruitful digging into one's past lives is > > > > > > attempting to unearth the most significant memories one has of his > > > > > > own here and now life starting with his birth. This will inevitably > > > > > > give a person the greatest bang for his buck. All the rest is sheer > > > > > > fantasy and as far as I am concerned pure psychological dithering. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Molly <[email protected]> > > > > > > To: "Minds Eye" <[email protected]> > > > > > > Sent: Tue, Dec 1, 2009 9:10 am > > > > > > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: Past Lives > > > > > > > I just noticed that the Weiss Institute (Dr. Brian Weiss as noted by > > > > > > Slip above) no longer gives referrals for psychologists that have > > > > > > been > > > > > > trained to conduct past live regression using his methods. I have > > > > > > been reading him for almost two decades, and have enjoyed watching > > > > > > his > > > > > > material evolve. He has a book with a CD what gives you the > > > > > > meditation and guidance to conduct a past life regression by > > > > > > yourself. I have given this as a gift over the years. Folks often > > > > > > have to give it several tries and find their comfort zone before > > > > > > they > > > > > > find results. > > > > > > > I think that if you are asking questions about past life regression, > > > > > > you are probably ready to do this. I worked alone and with a couple > > > > > > different psychologist that made it their life's work. One guy in > > > > > > particular that was associated with an Illinois University required > > > > > > the work of his graduate students that involved authenticating the > > > > > > past lives with historical facts...finding evidence of the life that > > > > > > was viewed in public records and news archives. It is quite > > > > > > fascinating. > > > > > > > Brian Weiss himself has come to the idea that we are everyone who > > > > > > has > > > > > > ever lived and is living and will ever live, and our life reviews > > > > > > are > > > > > > merely and insight into "other." He emphasizes patterns of > > > > > > character > > > > > > and events over lives (some see it as karma) giving us insight into > > > > > > our own current situation. It can also be helpful in resolving > > > > > > problematic relationships in our current lives because it can lead > > > > > > to > > > > > > insights into ourselves that can be creating the problems. > > > > > > > On Dec 1, 1:15 am, L <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I'm one of those people that believe in reincarnation. I believe > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > have many past lives, but I believe that they're either > > > > > > > unattainable, > > > > > > > or they are so suppressed that it's near impossible to retrieve > > > > > > > them. > > > > > > > One things for sure, I would like to find out what my past life > > > > > > > was. > > > > > > > > On Nov 26, 6:33 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi! ... I was just wondering if past life regression is really > > > > > > > > authentic.... how can you drive out a persons past life just > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > that! any experts on the subject. > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > > > Groups > > > > > > ""Minds Eye"" group. > > > > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > > [email protected]. > > > > > > For more options, visit this group > > > > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.-Hidequotedtext- > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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