You Mr. Fiddler are perfectly correct. The core term in this discussion about God and dissent is in asking and answering the question: who is the final authority in one's life. To me this is a no brainer but a difficult one to accept. Each of us is our own final authority whether we like it or not. Since every experience necessarily involves an interpretation (conscious and unconscious meanings assigned to whatever we select as something to register - including the concept and perhaps experience of GOD- we are - if we think God is supreme - still assigning our final authority to the supreme Being. In so doing we are make a choice to project our final authority to him, her, or it. So be it... but it is still a choice no matter how much it will be argued that it is the way it is.
-----Original Message----- From: fiddler <[email protected]> To: "Minds Eye" <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Jan 4, 2010 10:48 pm Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: Can God be mocked? Do blasphemy laws make sense? Why should any person worship a god that: 1) ...cannot take any form of criticism? This does not matter whether or not it is a "god" that cannot take the criticism or "just" it's followers. If a person speaks for god, the god spoke(presumably a god can stop someone if they misrepresent that god). 2) ...has a holy book condemning blasphemers to death or worse? Same criticism as above if slightly modified. Please see what the punishment for apostasy is in islam for an all too contemporary explanation. 3) ...forbids humans to do exactly what humans were made to do? Blasphemy is often raised here but so is sex, murder/war, and scientific thought. This may seem loose but, too many of both christian and muslim fundamentalist groups act as if "god said so" is an answer to anything and everything. We are genetically driven to explore, define, explain, think, redefine, travel, and otherwise push the envelope of reality. Why would any god with the power to grant this, then decide that we are not allowed to on pain of death and damnation? More if you'd like, but my views on religion and it's terrible repercussions is not hidden. The sad and basic truth is this: religion detests those that argue it simply because there is no corresponding argument FOR it. Unless of course, one simply keeps saying "but those aren't true (insert deity fan club) morals." Unfortunately, the same ones that claim the "no true scotsman" fallacy, then try the "ad populum" fallacy and say 1.6 billion can't be wrong. On Jan 4, 11:13 am, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote: > Given that there was an attempted murder on the Danish cartoonist Kurt > Westergaard last week, and that the subject has come up in the > "Muslims making you nervous" thread, I thought I'd open a new thread > to discuss this particular issue. Molly asked two questions: > > On 4 Jan., 19:56, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Is your question "can God be mocked" or should there be laws in any > > country that penalize citizens for doing so? > > Two questions, really. > So I'll start this with Molly's usual question, what do YOU think? > > Francis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.--
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