Ok! You concluded that our actions reveal our state. And I do agree
with that. You can identify a tree by the fruit it bears. The quality
of our actions is dependent upon our belief system, especially our
belief in a [G]od. The purpose or the intention with what I wrote is
in effort to unveil the intended meaning of that portion of scripture.
Having a clearer concept of what was actually being related should
produce a better quality of fruit. The oneness that can not cause harm
and remain One, for example. Often  when we think our way through a
situation we are able to put up a better image than when we react to a
situation. Out of reaction we show more of the content of the heart.
So then, to truly know thyself, you will need to truly know God. Then
the love, respectively, follows.

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Molly <[email protected]> wrote:
> And how is this the basis of our actions, Edward?
>
> On Jan 13, 1:24 pm, edward mason <[email protected]> wrote:
>> What with the statements, "Let us create........in our own
>> image............in the image of God created he them male and female".
>> "For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother and they two
>> shall be one flesh." A good place for science, wouldn't you say.
>> Solution: they ate from a tree that showed them a difference between
>> good and evil; knowledge and ignorance; light and dark; etc. They must
>> then be separated from the tree of life less they live forever in
>> their error.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Molly <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Merriam-Webster defines the word “do” as ways we act, behave, get
>> > alone, fare, manage, happen, finish and serve, among others.  Often
>> > our actions require our ability to rationally ascertain the context of
>> > our actions, the possible consequences of our actions and the ethics
>> > of our actions before we do anything.  Or do they?  Our actions, I
>> > think, like our words, are very clear indications of our state of
>> > mind.  Sociopaths would act differently than saints in the same
>> > circumstances, because they bring to the moment, a different frame of
>> > reference, different viewpoint and different foundation for action.
>>
>> > There are psychologies to both doing and doing nothing.   Yes, there
>> > are rational-emotional models of the factors that predispose humans to
>> > do nothing.   And there are theories of the psychology of action,
>> > which take into account reasoning abilities, emotion, attitude and
>> > other factors.
>>
>> > When our belief system holds God and Divine Action, our state of mind
>> > is very different than states that do not hold that belief, and our
>> > actions may reflect these differences.  To understand and bridge these
>> > differences, The Vatican Observatory (VO) and the Center for Theology
>> > and Natural Sciences (CTNS) jointly sponsor a series of conferences on
>> > divine action. The theme of each conference is an area of the natural
>> > sciences: quantum cosmology and the laws of nature (1992), chaos and
>> > complexity (1994), evolutionary and molecular biology (1996),
>> > neuroscience (1998), and quantum mechanics (2000). This brings
>> > specificity and precision to the discussions of divine action. In one
>> > of the papers from these conferences, along with summaries of many
>> > others, is posted on the CTNS website:  In “The Metaphysics of Divine
>> > Action,” John Polkinghorne notes that any discussion of agency
>> > requires the adoption of a metaphysical view of the nature of reality.
>> > He claims that there is no “deductive” way of going “from epistemology
>> > to ontology,” but the strategy of critical realism is to maximize the
>> > connection. This leads most physicists, he claims, to interpret
>> > Heisenberg’s uncertainty principle as implying an actual indeterminacy
>> > in the physical world, rather than an ignorance of its detailed
>> > workings.  Polkinghorne’s summary on the nature of Divine Action
>> > includes the insight that divine agency has its own special
>> > characteristics and that God’s knowledge of the world of becoming will
>> > be truly temporal in character.
>>
>> > In his book, Religion in late Modernity   Robert C. Neville,  suggests
>> > that these inquires  “concerning divine action takes its rise from
>> > people who affirm as a supposition the belief that God is a personal
>> > being of some sort.”
>>
>> > In A Search for God In Ancient Egypt, by Jan Assmann, divine action
>> > and religious experience are part of the cosmic dimension of the
>> > mystic experience.  Here, divine action is implicit in all contact
>> > with the divine once transcendence into Divine Presence has been
>> > realized.  In other words, our actions become Divine Action, while in
>> > the presence of the One within.
>>
>> > To Bernard de Clairvaux, mysticism is the highest degree of the scale
>> > of love and “a perfect participation in the love which God has from
>> > Himself in the unity of the Spirit…to become thus is to be deified.”
>> > Our actions are naturally inspired from this unity of the Spirit that
>> > pervades our state.
>>
>> > This idea is similar to the mystical divine action, our own action,
>> > taken as a result of our mystical union with the God with us.  The
>> > mystic Jan Ruysbroeck suggests in mystical union God “breathes us out
>> > from Himself that we may love and do good works; and again he draws us
>> > into Himself, that we may rest in fruition.”
>>
>> > Our efficacy and actions then, may be defined by whether or not we
>> > believe in God, and if we believe that God is external and personal,
>> > or a state of being within ourselves.  What do YOU think?
>>
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