On Jan 22, 4:42 pm, Errol <[email protected]> wrote:
> No! The other side is that Bin Ladens transition towards evil was
> inspired by US actions (recruiting him for one) but MOSTLY due to the
> radical nature of his training, education, and upbringing. I.O.W.s
> himself
>
> So if Bin Laden threw acid in your face, it could all be justified
> later should somebody say about you, "Look how Vamadevananda recoils
> from his haughtiness when I shake a beaker of acid at him."

Vamadevananda might recoil from fear or hurt, but he would not have
the haughtiness to recoil from !

> My point is that the Israelis did not make Bin Laden into the monster
> he is ...

Sure, the connection may not be established in a court of law. The
fact is people can live with their fate or natural condition, with or
without strife and violence amongst themselves or with the world about
them. But the feelings we immediately or directly cause or inspire in
a population are seldom forgotten, the indignities and insensitivities
and what may be perceived as avoidable suffering and injustice, often
through generations. That is commonly the fire or dynamite that
explodes through history.

> he had the natural capacity and circumstances to become one
> anyway

I wouldn't be sure. In any case, I do not see how something as
phenomenal as that can provide a justification or cause for us to
believe that we are therefore white, clean, bathed in milk !

> On Jan 20, 6:16 pm, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > " ... but it is one sided to blame the actions of the Israelis for his
> > emergence as a super terrorist."
>
> > Yeah, what is the other side ?  That, acts of bin ladens caused the
> > Jews to make Palestinians stateless and subservient ? !
>
> > Don't forget how US now recoils from its haughtiness after 9 / 11 !
> > It did work.  Unfortunately, more is to follow, before the US citizens
> > finally begin to lampoon the neo cons, for the misery they have
> > brought upon them and upon the world at large.

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