" Just what is capital Don and why is it so important for so few people to have control over it?"
Don, I see this question as an opportunity for you to don the hat of an economist - positivist. It would be extremely interesting to see how this discussion may rise from the emotional - mental to its intellectual moorings aimed at ' welfare for one and all.' On Jan 26, 9:52 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > Where is this free press Don? Secrecy is all around and yet almost > none of it is exposed to scrutiny by mainstream media. There has been > almost no reporting of any of our wars since Vietnam, other than from > embedded stooges. What kind of press can be free if all it does is > pander to those only interested in celebrity stories, or reports from > a lobby system or the bent statistics it is fed? What have you been > seeing that tells you there has been a swing from business to social > interests? If people actually want a global socialist system, why > not, who is convincing you the current system is free and that would > not be and why? Surely not the "free press" owned by the current rich > who want no change? > > Hugo 'the boss' Chavez sounds even more like a chav aftershave on > reflection Ian and if I'm not sure he is a great guy, some decent > reporting on South American street politics by FOX (that bastion of > the free press), might at least allow people to decide why his people > vote for him. Your great free press free enough to give an hour of > peak time to John Pilger Don? Early 20th century capitalism gave us > two world wars. The first started with a British invasion of Iraq in > 1913, though our great free history says otherwise, blaming the > losers. The balance of capital fled to the US after that, along with > the war mongering. Just what is capital Don and why is it so > important for so few people to have control over it? > > On 25 Jan, 22:58, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > How much better off would S. America be without the ruinous influence > > of the new dictator for life and Castro clone Chavez? How bad must it > > get before you see the dangers inherent in a system that rewards > > incompetence and punishes accomplishment? I know capitalism isn't > > perfect but it's the best and fairest way towards progress. Vam makes > > his point very well and I agree in principle with what he says in > > regards to the U.S. political swinging system. But not on the world > > stage. Even the swinging from business interests to social interests > > has been heavily favored towards a socialist agenda since the Great > > Society. Maybe since the New Deal. I'm thinking a return to early > > 20th century capitalism may be our only way to pull us out of the > > economic doldrums we now face. Surrendering to a global socialist > > system would be a disaster for the U.S. and probably the world. > > Absolute disaster. As bad as we are doing for ourselves at the moment > > imagine how bad it would get with some world body like the UN in > > charge. *shudder* > > > Looks like I've gone off the reservation again. Sorry. I can't help > > but think with a prominent and free press we can make capitalism work > > much better then it did 100 years ago. Better and more humane. One > > need only look to the massive puplic support towards the people of > > Haiti to see this is so. > > > All I am saaaaaying, > > Is give Capitalism a chaaaance...... > > > ;-) > > > -Don > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Ian Pollard <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > 2010/1/24 Don Johnson <[email protected]> > > > >> It saddens me that many of you probably support this kind of fascist > > >> leadership just so long as that leadership is in favor of wealth > > >> redistribution. How can anyone like ANYTHING about this shameful thug > > >> Chavez? I just don't get it. He's running his country into the > > >> ground and blaming America and getting totally away with it. Tell me, > > >> which is better. Unrestricted free speech(barring the obligatory > > >> "Fire" in the theatre) or blatant suppression/forced control over the > > >> content of that speech? I'll take the first one. Every time. > > > > Of course he's blaming America, Don, after all the U.S. did support a coup > > > d'état to remove him from power in 2002. :) > > > > Chavez is a hero and beacon of hope for South America and 3rd world > > > counties > > > more generally. > > > > Ian > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > ""Minds Eye"" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > [email protected]. > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
