Let me first state that, while I admire Chavez for a lot of what he
has done and is trying to achieve in Venezuela and the Americas
generally, I'm not calling for his canonisation!

Where Chavez stands today is (partly at least) a reaction to his
opponents/deadly enemies both within his country and beyond its
borders. Action - reaction. He's not the first in this case and,
sadly, he won't be the last ... Morales, Ortega, Allende, Castro,
etc., the list is long and the sinister spoiling hand of the USA has
always been evident.

Just imagine the following scenario; A fairly radical, left-leaning
personality, with a thoroughgoing reform agenda is democratically
elected to leadership in a Central or South American country. The USA
reacts by enthusiastically welcoming the result, calling on the
various opposition groups to accept the democratically expressed will
of the people, promises aid to help install the reform programme in
cooperation with the newly-elected regime and goes on to actively
realise this promise ...

I suppose, like Joni, I'll just have to go on dreaming.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6z79WMOPtk

Francis

On 27 Jan., 04:48, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote:
> I wasn't trying to promote any ideology, I just detest violent and
> brutal dictators.
>
> On Jan 26, 4:13 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Chavez might just be only another in a long line of centralising
> > capitalists like Hitler, Mao, Stalin and the increasing focus of money
> > into the bwanker-sphere and bureaucratic hands.  Everywhere,a s in
> > this discussion, ideology is pitted against ideology - the idea is to
> > try and surpass this.
>
> > On 26 Jan, 22:35, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > If you need sources for stories as simple as this, you need to read
> > > more.http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation-world/sns-ap-lt-venezuela-med...
> > > This all over the media and is only the latest assault on his own
> > > people.
>
> > > as for: > Give sources, support your claims, or be quiet.
>
> > > Ya Vohl, Herr Kommandant!
>
> > > On Jan 26, 1:38 pm, Ian Pollard <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > 2010/1/26 fiddler <[email protected]>
>
> > > > > So causing the growing percentage of poor, closing down any media
> > > > > outlet that doesn't stop everything to show him whenever he chooses,
> > > > > sending troops to stop any demonstration, arresting and murdering
> > > > > opposition members, determining curricula in schools to reflect only
> > > > > what he desires, arresting the economy and preventing growth, ...all
> > > > > of these are good to you?
>
> > > > Ian

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