Yes sir you are correct. We are discussing worldviews at large. I'll concede then that for the majority of 'Us' disent from accepted dogma is regarded as heresey.
I'll not agree though that the schisms of religion along the lines of such disent is 'the exception' as it clearly is not. Can we count how many Christian 'churches' there are? History shows us that religious schizm due to disenting views IS rather the norm, does it not? As to fairly true generalities, I think they should suffer. I have been accused somewhat of 'micro thinking', myself I call it, getting it right in my head what that person means. For every general statement there will always be 'the exceptions', so what use to debate does making such general statments do us? Say what you mean, say it clear so that the possiblity of missunderstanding diminishes, that's the way I try to approach it. On 29 Jan, 16:33, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > Ah, but then we're discussing worldviews at large, and not the exceptional > leaders of that worldview. For the congregation, is not dissent to a > specific ideology considered Heresy? Heretics may then choose to form their > own organization which supports their current worldview, but they are the > exception, as opposed to the rule. > > Sadly, though, this is the mindset I've seen from the Global Warming folks > which gives me pause; that they consider skepticism and dissenting thought > to be heresy. > > So, once again, a fairly true generality suffers in the face of specifics. > > > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > Sorry Chrisy boy I simply can't agree with this. > > > Science on the whole we can treat rather generaly. The scientific > > principle is valid for all science. > > > Religion, well coming as it does from an 'unreasonable' place, > > anything that anybody of faith may say about the subject, well it can > > be anything can't it. > > > I can claim for example that Jesus was a lizard, or that Jesus was the > > messiah prophesised by Jewish scripture. Both are unreasonable, > > unsubstanciable claims and both elicit differant responses to those > > who say they follow the teachings of Jesus. > > > Are you really claiming that given both of these claims a supporter of > > Jesus will not give any thought to them? That they will instead just > > take it as an article of faith which one is true without trying to > > rationalize which one they belive? Hahah Yes okay some will, but some > > wont you know. > > > This is exactly what gets my goat, the inferance here is that I as a > > religious man, do not think about my own religiousness. Plainly wrong > > innit. > > > On 29 Jan, 14:43, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I read in last weeks New Scientist about an emerging theory of > > > > gravity. That is stems from a property of how matter is organised, > > > > the example give was one of water and fludity. One water molocule has > > > > no fluidity, it is only when many clump together that fludity occours. > > > > > New ideas, which run agianst the old ideas. As yet there is no > > > > evidance for this theory, yet it is being taken seriously. > > > > Of course it is...but only as an emerging theory. In science, you see, > > new > > > ideas are taken as a point to BEGIN thinking...with religion, it's most > > > usually the place to STOP thinking. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > ""Minds Eye"" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]<minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
