We can all agree that freedom of speech along with a culture of mutual respect is what this group is about. Let's stop singling each other out for argument about this and move on.
On Feb 7, 1:05 pm, 1CellOfMany <[email protected]> wrote: > Fiddler, I fear that you have misunderstood what I was saying. There > are many people who do not believe in God, and are willing to discuss > what they do believe about the way the world works. They are also > willing to share their reasons for nor believing in God. But there > are others who not only do not believe in God, but they DO believe > that anyone who DOES believe in God is a fool, and they state this > belief repeatedly. They also tend to belittle belief in God by > comparing it to belief in fairies or some other silly thing. They > also seem to believe that the effect of religion on the world has been > mostly negative, and while they can supply examples of negative > effects, they seem to be blind t the many positive effects that > religion has had. > > Now, I really don't care whether they believe these things or not, but > some of these particular atheists make it a point to state their > beliefs at every opportunity. It is as though they were on a crusade > to stamp out religion. Now, this is a forum for discussion of ideas > and beliefs. I share my thoughts and beliefs, and I try to be > respectful of the thoughts and beliefs of others. When my beliefs are > mocked and ridiculed in a forum like this, it is a sign that the other > person is not willing to listen and to discuss things rationally. > This is irritating to many of us, but it also reflects poorly on the > character of the person who is doing the mocking. I am merely asking > that you show as much respect for my ideas, whether you agree with > them or not, as you would like me to show for your ideas. > > On Feb 7, 12:38 am, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > And you are demonstrating that one word may have two intended uses. A > > belief in god is not the same as a belief in the sun rising. Yes, > > everyone believes something. Some of us believe in testable reality > > and some of us in untestable -and often proven wrong- religions. > > Though the word is the same, the use is not. Your rant had no true > > point, it was only that... a rant. > > > On Feb 6, 9:29 pm, 1CellOfMany <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > So, OZ, if I understand what you are saying, you *believe* that, "The > > > common failure of "believers" is their inability to understand a > > > simple concept: ---- Lack of belief, is not, itself, belief --- " > > > > (If you don't believe that statement, then why would you make it!) > > > > I find that the common failure of those who snipe at "believers" in > > > the cause of atheism is their tendency to stereo-type and talk trash > > > about believers. So, by your own words, you have demonstrated the > > > point of my rant. > > > > On Feb 6, 12:11 pm, MajorOz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > The common failure of "believers" is their inability to understand a > > > > simple concept: > > > > > ---- Lack of belief, is not, itself, belief --- > > > > > cheers > > > > > oz, learner, not believer -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
