Not in my world Vam. Nature contains both on a genetic-adaptation basis. The finer separation you suggest, for me, comes later.
On 10 Feb, 06:36, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > The animal instinct is survival, sex, security and power for oneself. > > Its opposite is Love, when altruistic drive takes centre stage. > > It's possible to include both, in what is manifest. But to do that, > one would have to posit ' involution ' alongwith this concept of > evolution. That which is evolving is far, far greater than that which > is evolved ... > > On Feb 10, 8:24 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Chimps do share food on occasion, but not with strangers. We do it in > > order to domesticate, so altruism may not be all. I can hardly watch > > any primates without thinking how human they are. Much we think of as > > beyond instinct may actually be part of it. > > > On 7 Feb, 07:51, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > " ... they share food." > > > > Indeed, amazing. I'd call it spiritually evolved, beyond our animal > > > ( instinctual ) nature ! > > > > On Feb 7, 10:24 am, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > As everyone knows, we are sharing this earth with a few other closely > > > > related species. Of these, bonobos and chimpanzees are the closest > > > > relatives. > > > > > Chimpanzees are aggressive but show remarkably advanced traits of > > > > societal learning. Certain tribes learn tool use and continue in that > > > > specific use differently than nearby tribes. I'm not suggesting that > > > > some prefer Snap-on and some Dewalt; but that specific methods of > > > > creating and using sticks for termite collection, for example, vary > > > > between tribes even after contact with the other methods. This > > > > suggests a seemingly very human tendency to favour ones own tribal > > > > customs and knowledge. They are quite aggressive however and possibly > > > > so successful for that very reason. Perhaps this aggressiveness, so > > > > like our own, is the reason that they are often wrongly thought to be > > > > our closest cousin. They are simply one of two. > > > > > Bonobos are the more peaceful cousin, long known to be caring and > > > > intelligent. They share more with us than chimpanzees and are rarely > > > > discussed, possibly because they most resemble Australopithecus - the > > > > famed "Lucy." The comparison to humankind is amazing; the bonobo > > > > walks upright (not exclusively), maintains strong tribal units, can > > > > learn human speech, and can breed at nearly any point in their oestrus > > > > cycle. They also love each other... a lot...and often...and with > > > > imagination... This is one reason that many people are uncomfortable > > > > touting the extremely close genetic and societal similarities, these > > > > apes prove that homosexuality is perfectly normal in african apes and > > > > even part of our makeup, which really offends the trilogy of cults. > > > > A new experiment has shown that bonobos do something else that even > > > > chimps won't, they share food. Chimpanzees are known to be caring to > > > > each other and often loan tools, but never food. Bonobos show yet > > > > another human attribute and prove yet again how amazing and beautiful > > > > our african ape heritage is. > > > > >http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18477-sharing-apes-what-bonobos... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
