When the doctor lives miles away and the preacher goes door to door threatening them with hell if they use a doctor rather than an exorcism? You have a very strange concept of easy.
On Feb 10, 2:13 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > Ahhh clarity that is good my friend. > > Here is what you posted: > > ' Common people want there to be quick and easy cures, and so > they are credulous whenever some "scientistic" concept is given to > them. The more education people pursue allows them to distinguish > between scientistic and scientific knowledge.' > > Now you expand on that and my thanks for it. However I still think > you are wrong, in your generlisation. By 'common' what do you mean? > > I'll assume you mean the avargae man in the street, the common man, of > normal intelegence? > > Like for instance some of our African brothers who may instead of > sending their sick child to a doctor(the quick and easy route) choose > to take them to their Pastor to excorsise the demon out of them. > > Thats just one little example from the very top of my head. > > On 9 Feb, 21:26, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > and just so I'm clear: > > > > Speaking as one of these common people I can say withour fear of > > > contradiction that niether myself nor my wife have ever seeked the > > > quick and easy cure. > > > Does this mean that you refuse to eat vegetables and fruit, preferring > > a doctors visit to remedy scurvy? Or do you somehow think that isn't > > an easier alternative. > > Does this mean that if a dentist tells you that regular flossing will > > help remove dental problems, you will tell the dentist that you would > > prefer the more complicated and expensive surgical procedures? > > Does this mean that you go from home to the grocery store via the > > Himalayas? > > Or do you indeed prefer the easier and less complicated methods and > > simply want to argue? > > > I think you may have mistaken the term "quick and easy" for the > > concept I was addressing, specifically believing that scientistic > > remedies provide a promise of a quick and easy cure and that if one > > doesn't investigate these claims, one will choose them believing the > > claims to be true, thus following the "quick and easy' path. > > It is the nature of all life to follow the quickest and easiest path, > > evolution shows this repeatedly. Sometimes the quickest and easiest > > turns out to be one with a few more steps or a little more time to > > begin with, but a more advantageous ending. > > > On Feb 9, 2:16 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:> Ahhh normal service has > > been resummed. > > > > I would like to agree further with you here, but I find that I can't. > > > Nor am I formerly educated to a high standard, > > > > leaving school at 15 as I did and all that. > > > > In a similar vein, I also know some very well educated peopel who are > > > simply fools. > > > > The whole wolrd over we are diferant, and it makes far more sense to > > > me to deal with people and to think about people on an individual > > > basis than lump them together in broad and largly incorrect groupings. > > > > Of course the well educated can fall for scams, and also be religous. > > > And of course thoese without a great education can have street smarts > > > enough to not fall for scams, and be atheist. > > > > On 8 Feb, 20:23, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I think that if one looks at society, one sees that around 3-5% of > > > > people are truly predatory. In our modern day, predatory relates to > > > > economic or monetary success. The only educated people that seem to > > > > believe this stuff are the promoters of it, the ones that actually > > > > profit. Common people want there to be quick and easy cures, and so > > > > they are credulous whenever some "scientistic" concept is given to > > > > them. The more education people pursue allows them to distinguish > > > > between scientistic and scientific knowledge. > > > > > On Feb 8, 9:01 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Bloody hell, what is this? > > > > > > I agree with you Fidds. In fact I saw a piece in the news the other > > > > > week about this. > > > > > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8489019.stm > > > > > > No the agreement is out of the way lets talk about your prediliction > > > > > for putting others down. > > > > > > My freind of course the uneducated have nonsense running through their > > > > > heads, they are uneducated. However many educated people belive in > > > > > such nonsense too, so what governs the willingness to belive > > > > > nonsense? I don't think education has as much to do with it as you > > > > > assume. > > > > > > On 5 Feb, 19:57, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > IMO, when anyone makes a health claim, it needs to be tested. For so > > > > > > many people the favourite argument is: "it can't be tested like > > > > > > medicine." I think that's even a quote in that piece. This is > > > > > > patently > > > > > > untrue and nothing more than a dodge. > > > > > > > Self mutilators actually have some success, the pain and process of > > > > > > harming ones own flesh creates a whole set of different chemical > > > > > > reactions in the brain. This doesn't cure or prevent, it simply > > > > > > makes > > > > > > your brain discount or ignore the more natural problems. > > > > > > > On Feb 5, 11:50 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Does acupuncture fit in with this group? I knew a Chinese guy > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > swore by scratching. He used a wooden back scratcher to mutilate > > > > > > > himself and claimed it kept him from getting sick and helped him > > > > > > > relax. Whatever. Real smart guy too; owns a chain of Subways. > > > > > > > Workaholic. > > > > > > > > dj > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:36 PM, fiddler > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > For some reason, nonsense rules the minds of the uneducated. > > > > > > > > Homeopathy is one of those nonsense topics. It's bad enough > > > > > > > > that the > > > > > > > > homeopathic promoters don't understand the first thing about > > > > > > > > medecine, > > > > > > > > biology, chemical interactions, etc., why do otherwise > > > > > > > > intelligent > > > > > > > > people and organisations lend them credibilty by allowing them > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > entertain this nonsense in a collegiate environment? I would be > > > > > > > > horrified at a university that allows flat-earthers to teach > > > > > > > > geography > > > > > > > > or creationists to teach biology or a geocentrist to teach > > > > > > > > astronomy, > > > > > > > > this is just as bad. > > > > > > > > >http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/02/ums_open_shame_the_center_... > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > > > > > > > Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. > > > > > > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > > > > [email protected]. > > > > > > > > For more options, visit this group > > > > > > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.-Hidequotedtext- > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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