“Why do you feel the need to draw this particular distinctive line between individuals of the human race at this point, orn?” – gabby
A good question gabbers. First, my words: “This is where those who rely upon thought using words and concepts alone fail. Other ways of knowing are needed…always have been, always will be. “ were in response to Pat’s comment: “Not until we all speak the same language again. ;-) If we ever do!??!” So, in this sense, it was meant as a unifying expansion and clarification associated with his reply to Archy’s comments on language. This was more of the ‘what’ than the ‘why’ that you asked gabby. The ‘why’ is mostly a simple discriminative (in the sense of being capable of making fine distinctions) comment on the topic…perhaps not too dissimilar to your ability to notice blue and brown eyes. As to a ‘need’, I’m not so sure there was one other than what I’ve expressed above. Further, what may be perceived as a “particular distinctive line between individuals of the human race” to me is no more a separation between us than someone learning how to do gymnastics or learning many different languages is a separation…there is a natural hierarchy when it comes to abilities. This in no way precludes the possibility of change for any of us. I could begin the study of a new language at my advanced age even though it would be quite difficult. Others here could take up any area of study and become ‘different’, at least for our ability to discriminate in such cases. This is true when it comes to the areas of philosophy, science, metaphysics as well as metacognition too. Perhaps synesthesia is of a different rank of abilities. Lastly, I would guess that my motivation was to remind people that living in a world of words and concepts, as perhaps interesting as it may be, can blind one to other aspects of being human. So, in this way, it was a friendly poke to help awaken us all to that which is not conceptual…so that there will be no line between individuals. On Feb 20, 6:56 am, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > Why do you feel the need to draw this particular distinctive line > between individuals of the human race at this point, orn? > > On 19 Feb., 16:54, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > This is where those who rely upon thought using words and concepts > > alone fail. Other ways of knowing are needed…always have been, always > > will be. > > > On Feb 19, 2:44 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > It seems the periodic table extends far beyond 118 and the boffins > > > think there may be stable elements at very high number. I sometimes > > > think language might be a bit like this in that we struggle to fit > > > other than a few elemental strings of it together and need to keep it > > > stable longer in critical mode through understanding variable > > > influences like temperature and pressure (metaphors). Experiments are > > > now showing that information is transferred by mothers to offspring > > > even when they don't do maternal nurture stuff (crickets are > > > programmed to be very scared of wolf-spiders by mothers that have > > > lived with the threat and not by those that haven't). > > > Language does invent and get divorced from biology-reality, which pits > > > Sophism against truth, though inventive language also helps us better > > > understand and articulate reality, so this particular dichotomy is not > > > the end of the story. > > > > On 18 Feb, 15:53, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >http://corrosion-doctors.org/Periodic/Periodic-1.htm > > > > > On Feb 18, 3:12 am, Ian Pollard <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > On 17 February 2010 15:24, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > What did she drop then Ian? > > > > > > Nothing at all, she runs around saying it over and over. We were > > > > > wondering > > > > > is it was "stop it", but the jury is out on that I'm afraid. > > > > > > In all honesty, I am onside with the biological basis for language. > > > > > Less so > > > > > on the periodic table analogy. Grammar is quite mutable. For example: > > > > > I use > > > > > unprecursed pronouns in my writing quite often when opening a scene, > > > > > it can > > > > > create a nice lead-in. > > > > > > Chemicals on the periodic table are, by comparison, not mutable. > > > > > > Ian- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
