On 10 Mar, 14:15, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> We don't even have politicians like this Bill.  I take a darker stance
> than he does in the video.  Naomi Klein has described what I call
> 'slash and burn capitalism' and I believe we are acting in the
> knowledge that our interventions are about destruction.  We keep
> corrupt governments in place all over and seem to have a strange
> practice of regretting stuff in hindsight that was palpably obvious
> before we get into the inevitable messes. Always good to see Dennis,
> but the points are deeper.  Around 1840, 12,000 or so British troops
> went to Kabul 'on request' to 'establish order', more or less dying to
> a man after a deal with Muslim groups on safe passage turned out to be
> a trap.  We were still bombing the place in reprisal for bandit raids
> into India in around 1920.  The deep question is what 'imperialism'
> has been and is doing there - the military problems are well-known and
> thought to be intractable.  India is putting massive 'aid' in,
> building a new highway into Iran, presumably to get stuff out or in.
> Maybe Vam could tell us more?
> The 'old', 'new', 'secret' reason for Afghanistan presence was to
> build an oil-gas pipeline, presumably to bring the stuff West (and
> hence not let it go more cheaply East?), but that went belly-up.  My
> suspicion is Iran, and a convenient base to bring it to heel and maybe
> something to do with blitzing a presumed threat from Pakistan.  I take
> statements about regime change and democracy with a pinch of salt.  In
> 1956, Britain and France launched a great lie with Israel (Churchill
> had been making mutterings about letting the Jews sweep the Egyptians
> into the sea) to take over the Middle East, a plan only thwarted by US
> foreign policy masquerading as democratic decency (look what has
> happened since).  I seriously think war is the underlying 'strategy'.
>

And here I thought the solution was obvious.  It seems a splendiferous
place to grow poppies, so, why not farm them there for valid reasons
rather than supporting the black market.  Then capitalism can work FOR
the people.  Oh, and foreign governments need to understand that
making war in a place whose national sport is dragging around a dead
animal corpse (buzkashi) is a bigger statement than it may first
appear.  Of course, the Taliban banned it as immoral.  But the West
view the Taliban as immoral; so, it's being played again.  What I
don't understand is how the West can play both sides and not expect to
be seen as having done that.  You know, never mind that the US backed
the mujahedin against the Soviets, all of a sudden, they're the enemy
because they helped that other guy, Bin Laden, who was also backed by
the US until he was deemed surplus to requirements.  The US is the
real terrorist behind the scenes and has been since the days of J.E.
Hoover.  When Hoover left the scene, the 'shot caller' has been G. H.
W. Bush from the broader branch of the CIA, who still gets his daily
reports.  And with very good reason.  How else can he dictate from
behind the scenes without them?  Of course, he has full compliance
from Lt. Gen. Alexander (head of the NSA) and the ever-so-secret head
of psy-ops, the unimpeachable Lt. Col. Michael Aquino, who just
happens to be the country's foremost Satanist with a plan to produce
the Antichrist.  You might think all of this is a combination of
conspiracy theory and BS, but you'd be VERY wrong.

> On 9 Mar, 05:02, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > Video too:
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