Ok,  I found it on the net(yes, I cheated.)  It seems an offal lot of
work for ONE less weighing.  Did I mention I'm laZy?  On a
cost/benefit analysis I believe my way is better.  And I'm stickin' to
it.;-)

Puzzles Smuzzles.   *harrumph*

dj


On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:08 PM, ornamentalmind
<[email protected]> wrote:
> incorrect
>
> On Mar 11, 9:04 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I thought about it again.  Actually, you could put half in on scale
>> and half in another.  1)One would be heavier.  So then you split one
>> side again and weight them.2)If they are even then you know that
>> different ball didn't come from that side and now you know if the ball
>> is heavier or lighter.  3)You split the balls(3 each scale) with the
>> odd ball in them to narrow it down.  4)weigh two of the remaining 3-if
>> they are even you know the 3rd is your odd ball.  If one is(lighter or
>> heavier based on earlier discovery) you know that one is the oddball.
>>
>> So 4 times.
>>
>> I think.
>>
>> dj
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Total guess is six but you can stop as soon as the scales aren't equal.
>>
>> > dj
>>
>> > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:53 PM, ornamentalmind
>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> Years ago I proffered this puzzle to ME:
>>
>> >> 12 balls…all appear to be identical. One and only one of them is a
>> >> little heavier OR a little lighter than the rest.
>> >> You have a balance scale…two pans hanging similar to what the statue
>> >> of blind justice holds.
>>
>> >> Problem: What is the *least* number of weighings  necessary to know
>> >> *for sure* which of the 12 is different *and* whether the specific
>> >> ball is lighter or heavier than the rest?
>>
>> >> On Mar 11, 7:32 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>> Indeed...I'd hate to hear you lost your marbles!
>>
>> >>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>> > lmao, I'd be nuts to even consider it.
>>
>> >>> > On Mar 11, 9:28 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>> > > Fortunately it wasn't a botched vasectomy, or you might not have had 
>> >>> > > the
>> >>> > > balls!
>>
>> >>> > > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>> > > > I'm in recovery right now after a botched operation.  I had my gall
>> >>> > > > bladder removed and the doctor accidentally cut out part of my
>> >>> > > > stomach.  I was beyond upset but when I told him I was going to 
>> >>> > > > file a
>> >>> > > > lawsuit he said I didn't have the guts.
>>
>> >>> > > > On Mar 11, 9:19 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> 
>> >>> > > > wrote:
>> >>> > > > > Not that I'm above them...
>>
>> >>> > > > > Two maggots were fighting in dead Ernest.
>>
>> >>> > > > > Sticks float. They wood.
>>
>> >>> > > > > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Chris Jenkins
>> >>> > > > > <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>> >>> > > > > > *dying*
>>
>> >>> > > > > > Puns are the worst.
>>
>> >>> > > > > > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]>
>> >>> > wrote:
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> Then of course you should know How Long was the Chinese man's 
>> >>> > > > > >> name
>> >>> > and
>> >>> > > > > >> how to make an Egg Roll, right?
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> On Mar 11, 8:49 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]>
>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>> > > > > >> > Great fun! I've always been a fan of riddles and puzzle 
>> >>> > > > > >> > games.
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Slip Disc 
>> >>> > > > > >> > <[email protected]>
>> >>> > > > wrote:
>> >>> > > > > >> > > Yeah, I knew the original set would lay waste to the
>> >>> > complexity,
>> >>> > > > but
>> >>> > > > > >> > > it would have on it's own without the correlation proved 
>> >>> > > > > >> > > to be
>> >>> > > > more
>> >>> > > > > >> > > perplexing. It was fun at the least.
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > On Mar 11, 8:39 pm, Chris Jenkins 
>> >>> > > > > >> > > <[email protected]
>>
>> >>> > > > wrote:
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > If you check the time stamps, it took about five 
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > minutes. :D
>> >>> > The
>> >>> > > > > >> > > predictable
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > range of the downward progression led me immediately to 
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > the
>> >>> > > > > >> correlation
>> >>> > > > > >> > > with
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > the original set. Calculus, for the win!
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Slip Disc <
>> >>> > [email protected]>
>> >>> > > > > >> wrote:
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > Simply smashing ol chap, I'm a bit gobsmacked.
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > How many hours did it take you?  hehehe!
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > On Mar 11, 8:03 pm, Chris Jenkins <
>> >>> > [email protected]
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> wrote:
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > I'm still waiting for the response from Slip! He
>> >>> > apparently
>> >>> > > > > >> didn't
>> >>> > > > > >> > > take
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > my
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > order, and tonight's overnight rate is increasing
>> >>> > > > .0345343782%!
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 3:24 AM, archytas <
>> >>> > > > > >> [email protected]>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > wrote:
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > Collaterally derivitise that last option Chris!
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > On 11 Mar, 03:17, Chris Jenkins <
>> >>> > > > [email protected]>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > wrote:
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > Elementary, my dear boy!
>>
>> >>> > > > 6.5192024052026487145829715574291844165280937789100654589503
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Slip Disc <
>> >>> > > > > >> [email protected]>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > wrote:
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Well Chris, you're really sharp so, what is 
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > the
>> >>> > next
>> >>> > > > in
>> >>> > > > > >> this
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > sequence?
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 20.024984394500785727697212148323,
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 13.114877048604001304688219995272,
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 9.230384607371460986883556451096,
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ?........................................?
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Hint:  It also has to do with the Universe.
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Anyone?
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On Mar 10, 8:20 am, Chris Jenkins <
>> >>> > > > > >> [email protected]>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > wrote:
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > *laughing*
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Indeed, sir, Douglas Adams is who I was
>> >>> > referring
>> >>> > > > to.
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Slip Disc <
>> >>> > > > > >> [email protected]
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > wrote:
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Come to think of it, probably that was 
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > what
>> >>> > Chris
>> >>> > > > was
>> >>> > > > > >> > > referring
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > too.
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > The solar reference threw me off but the 
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > real
>> >>> > > > problem
>> >>> > > > > >> was
>> >>> > > > > >> > > that
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > I
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > had
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > just finished off a six pack of Samuel 
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Adams.
>>
>> >>> >http://www.samueladams.com/verification/?nocookie
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Now I'll have that cigar but first cut 
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 82.5
>> >>> > off
>> >>> > > > it's
>> >>> > > > > >> length
>> >>> > > > > >> > > to
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > remove
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > the bad tasting stuff.
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 10, 6:46 am, Lee 
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>
>> >>> > > > wrote:
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh and here I was thinking Douglas 
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Adams.
>> >>> >  He
>> >>> > > > of
>> >>> > > > > >> the
>> >>> > > > > >> > > '42'
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > quote.
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > On 9 Mar, 22:58, Slip Disc <
>> >>> > [email protected]>
>> >>> > > > > >> wrote:
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Adams is a lunar impact crater that is
>> >>> > located
>> >>> > > > in
>> >>> > > > > >> the
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > rugged
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > southeastern section of the Moon, 
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > near the
>> >>> > > > lunar
>> >>> > > > > >> limb.
>> >>> > > > > >> > > It
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > lies
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > just
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > to
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > the southwest of the crater Legendre.
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Adams            Latitude  31.9S
>> >>> >  Longitude
>> >>> > > >  68.2E
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > Diameter
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > (km)
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 66.0
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> > >http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/lunarform/cratall.html
>>
>> >>> > > > > >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adams_%28lunar_crater%29
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 9, 9:26 am, Lee 
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]
>>
>> >>> > > > wrote:
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ummm err wot?
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9 Mar, 14:54, Slip Disc <
>> >>> > > > [email protected]>
>> >>> > > > > >> wrote:
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its the Lunar Crater, located on 
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
>> >>> > Moon,
>> >>> > > > not
>> >>> > > > > >> > > Archy's
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > moon.
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 9, 8:52 am, Lee <
>> >>> > [email protected]
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> wrote:
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why?  I think everbody who 
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > quotes
>> >>> > the
>> >>> > > > great
>> >>> > > > > >> man
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > should
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > get a
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > cigar,
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wanted or not.
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9 Mar, 14:46, Chris Jenkins <
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > [email protected]>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You don't get cigars for 
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > quoting
>> >>> > > > Adams,
>> >>> > > > > >> you
>> >>> > > > > >> > > hack!
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > ;)
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:41 
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AM,
>> >>> > Slip
>> >>> > > > Disc
>> >>> > > > > >> <
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > [email protected]>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No Cigar?
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 9, 8:32 am, Chris 
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jenkins
>> >>> > <
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > [email protected]>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Close!
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9:31
>> >>> > AM,
>> >>> > > > Slip
>> >>> > > > > >> Disc <
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 42
>>
>> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On
>>
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