I did have cow last night.  Split a 16 oz. sirloin with my dad.  No
drinks though.

I don't like the way the country is going.  Neither, incidentally, do
most Americans.  I think if you based the red/blue map of the USA on
opinion today the entire country would be blood red.  We have a short
attention span however and liberals don't change their spots over one
issue.  We're stuck with the new bill and they'll figure it out and
still vote demo come Nov.  Repubs will get a majority back but not a
super majority.  That usually happens anyway during these 'tweener
elections.

I have no idea what I was talking about when I said this:

“And being measurable is difficult.  to remain so requires me to do a
whole lot of nothing.  Not solving the various problems plaguing me
and going out of my way to complain about things i can't control.” –

I was really tired and I don't remember what I was trying to say.
Sorry it didn't make any sense it doesn't to me either.  I think I
must have deleted part of it by mistake and now can't remember what
the hell I was talking about.

Here's some promised Paine:

I shall conclude these remarks, with the following timely and well
intended hint. We ought to reflect that there are three different
ways, by which an independency may hereafter be effected; and that one
of those three, will one day or other, be the fate of America, viz. By
the legal voice of the people in Congress; by a military power; or by
a mob. It may not always happen that our soldiers are citizens, and
the multitude a body of reasonable men; virtue, as I have already
remarked, is not hereditary, neither is it perpetual. Should an
independency be brought about by the first of those means, we have
every opportunity and every encouragement before us, to form the
noblest purest constitution on the face of the earth. We have it in
our power to begin the world over again. A situation, similar to the
present, has not happened since the days of Noah until now. The
birthday of a new world is at hand, and a race of men, perhaps as
numerous as all Europe contains, are to receive their portion of
freedom from the event of a few months. The reflection is awful and in
this point of view, how trifling, how ridiculous, do the little paltry
cavilings, of a few weak or interested men appear, when weighed
against the business of a world.…

In short, independence is the only bond that can tie and keep us
together. We shall then see our object, and our ears will be legally
shut against the schemes of an intriguing, as well as a cruel enemy.
We shall then too be on a proper footing to treat with Britain; for
there is reason to conclude, that the pride of that court will be less
hurt by treating with the American states for terms of peace, than
with those she denominates "rebellious subjects," for terms of
accommodation. It is our delaying it that encourages her to hope for
conquest, and our backwardness tends only to prolong the war. As we
have, without any good effect therefrom, withheld our trade to obtain
a redress of our grievances, let us now try the alternative, by
independently redressing them ourselves, and then offering to open the
trade. The mercantile and reasonable part in England will be still
with us; because, peace with trade, is preferable to war without it.
And if this offer is not accepted, other courts may be applied to. On
these grounds I rest the matter. And as no offer hath yet been made to
refute the doctrine contained in the former editions of this pamphlet,
it is a negative proof, that either the doctrine cannot be refuted,
or, that the party in favor of it are too numerous to be opposed.
Wherefore instead of gazing at each other with suspicious or doubtful
curiosity, let each of us hold out to his neighbor the hearty hand of
friendship, and unite in drawing a line, which, like an act of
oblivion, shall bury in forgetfulness every former dissension. Let the
names of Whig and Tory be extinct; and let none other be heard among
us, than those of a good citizen, an open and resolute friend, and a
virtuous supporter of the rights of mankind and of the free and
independent states of America.

SOURCE: Paine, Thomas. "Common Sense." Philadelphia: self-published
pamphlet, 1776.

dj


On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:03 AM, ornamentalmind
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Somehow there must be a bit of irony and ideology in your flag story
> Don…maybe you were drinking while eating cow? ...it's really difficult
> to tell. Regardless…for the true patriots here, the symbolism is much
> less cynical.
>
> Charles Thompson, Secretary of the Continental Congress, reporting to
> Congress on the Seal, stated:
>
> "The colors of the pales (the vertical stripes) are those used in the
> flag of the United States of America; White signifies purity and
> innocence, Red, hardiness & valour, and Blue, the color of the Chief
> (the broad band above the stripes) signifies vigilance, perseverance &
> justice."
>
> Also this from a book about the flag published in 1977 by the House of
> Representatives...
>
> "The star is a symbol of the heavens and the divine goal to which man
> has aspired from time immemorial; the stripe is symbolic of the rays
> of light emanating from the sun."
>
> http://www.usflag.org/colors.html
>
> IF one is in fact a patriot, this will be well known. Of course,
> today’s dumbing down of US citizens produces a simple polarization…of
> ‘right’ & ‘left’…and all of the associated ignorant
> oversimplifications and we/them ‘ism this implies. As to red & blue
> states, we know how that worked out, don’t we? Lest one forgets, here
> is the map on that one.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoO14Yt9rqw
>
> “And being measurable is difficult.  to remain so requires me to do a
> whole lot of nothing.  Not solving the various problems plaguing me
> and going out of my way to complain about things i can't control.” –
> DJ
>
> Repeat after me:
>
> “God, grant me the serenity
> To accept the things I cannot change;
> The courage to change the things that I can;
> And the wisdom to know the difference.”
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serenity_Prayer
>
>
> On Mar 22, 10:44 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> There are some good ones here.  If no one else does I'll post some
>> fiery Paine later to vent my frustrations. Was at dinner at a steak
>> house last night and I told the table about my idea for the new
>> American flag.   What we'll do after all the red states secede is
>> we'll just turn that square red and put a hammer and sickle in it.
>> The rest of the wussy blue states stay white on a field of blue.
>> Strips don't change.
>>
>> And being measurable is difficult.  to remain so requires me to do a
>> whole lot of nothing.  Not solving the various problems plaguing me
>> and going out of my way to complain about things i can't control.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:07 PM, frantheman <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > On 22 Mrz., 04:23, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >> "The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You
>> >> have to catch it yourself."
>> >> ---Benjamin Franklin
>>
>> > "It's simple to be happy. It's hard to be simple."
>> > ---Eckart von Hirschhausen
>>
>> > :-)
>>
>> > Francis
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