I am not led to your conclusion in full Slip, though pretty much do with your "reality". What I want to try is a probing of what such a reality implies for thinking and the society we can try for.
On 11 May, 01:46, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > The point is though, that we can endure anything that comes by our > way, whether that be pleasing or horrendous either way we can live the > experience until we succumb to it. One only needs to review the > atrocities of former wars and genocides to understand our ability to > endure. > We are obviously setting ourselves up for disaster by depleting the > resources necessary for an expanding global population. Aside from the > depletion aspect we are destroying some of the viable resources we > already have. I have to say the death penalty for greedy corporate > insects seems a likely solution to at least slowing down impending > disasters. We have to remember that corporations are not individual > people but mostly like unthinking machinery that churns out profits. > Corporate fat cats are usually like mad dogs foaming at the mouth at > the sight of the big monetary whore waiting to be suckled. To hell > with the profit producing environment when they can purchase new > environment somewhere else on the planet. Surely it will all come to > an end someday but not within the lifetime of one CEO. There are some > responsible corporations and I do applaud them but truthfully they are > but a small minority in the chain of corporate gain. > I think these recent events of Hurricanes, Tsunami's, Volcano > eruptions, Floods and Earthquakes are simply signs of the "reality" of > planet earth. It has never been a stable utopia or heaven nor a place > where one can set up house forever. The planet is violent, the > atmosphere is unpredictable, the oceans are monsters waiting to > strike. Disaster lurks everywhere on planet earth and not only in the > form of natural disaster but disaster in our personal space, ie; we > don't know when that tornado is going to rip us to shreds. All we can > do is enjoy the moment, the hour, the day, the week, the month, the > year and hopefully more of the same next year. > > On May 10, 6:27 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > To fly on a beetle Riggers, though I wonder more about more > > involvement in simple living and basic questions as to what we have. > > One catastrophe is that we have lost touch with that. > > > On 10 May, 14:10, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 9 May, 00:08, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Neil and Vam on the Road To ... Bob Hope? or a Chinese jail? I > > > > sometimes crave some serious thinking and action Rigsby. > > > > Surely, it would be "On the Road to Nirvana", at least when shown to a > > > Buddhist audience; the Hindu audience would probably be more likely to > > > want to see it as "On the Road to Moksha". > > > > > On 8 May, 15:43, vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > " The question for me is how we escape our mundane thinking and > > > > > habits ... " > > > > > > Well, Neil, you just need to spend 2 days with me on - the - road in > > > > > the Himalayas ... ! And you would never have to ' escape ' anything > > > > > ever more. > > > > > > On May 8, 12:32 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > We had an election night comedy alternative to the business as usual > > > > > > coverage. The physicist Brian Cox was wheeled on to shoot the > > > > > > breeze > > > > > > on catastrophe, as we voted for a hung Parliament, leading to all > > > > > > sorts of guff about 'national interest' as the parties jockey for > > > > > > their own under this banner. > > > > > > > Cox came up with 'super volcanoes', pointing to the disaster in > > > > > > Indonesia 74,000 years ago that covered India with ash and reduced > > > > > > the > > > > > > human breeding population to about 1000 couples. Later he mentioned > > > > > > asteroids, pointing to a couple that will travel between us and some > > > > > > of our weather satellites in the next few years. Plague of some > > > > > > kind > > > > > > may also be on the cards. He was dismissive of CERN blackholes > > > > > > swallowing us up. There was much he didn't mention, like WMD > > > > > > terrorism possibilities and economic madness, the latter a point > > > > > > made > > > > > > many times by Jared Diamond (the point being what we are doing now > > > > > > that resembles past ecocides). > > > > > > > I have reached a point where I really should just opt out of society > > > > > > because it makes me frustrated, depressed and inclined to the > > > > > > insane. > > > > > > One can find personal peace, yet this always seems at the cost of > > > > > > hunkering down into ignoring what is likely to happen to 'us' and > > > > > > letting oneself be subsumed to trust in evolution and giving up on a > > > > > > wide, consensual society that is interested in being as prepared as > > > > > > it > > > > > > can to shape destiny. Cox was somewhat irreverent, leaving us only > > > > > > with the idea that Bruce Willis will be too old to save us. > > > > > > > I'm struck in the British context that we have had our 'new hung > > > > > > Parliament' before and the pundit blather is much the same. This > > > > > > politics is too boring to contemplate, but I wonder if we have any > > > > > > ideas on the broader context of what we know about catastrophe in > > > > > > history and how we might shape ourselves to evade or at least be > > > > > > prepared for its inevitability in the future. > > > > > > > The question for me is how we escape our mundane thinking and habits > > > > > > and what we would need to try to move on. I can't properly express > > > > > > this question and am looking for help.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -
