" ... Creation comes to be and evolves." Be careful, RP ! Rats bring rats and make ' creation ' come to be and evolve. Are you saying, the rat is " God , Truth , Reality , Atma is the One !" ?
This is not to suggest ridiculous arguments. Basically, God is one thing and Atman is another, Truth could a third and may or may not overlap with Reality ! They all must fall in a perspective. What is that ? On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:51 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > God , Truth , Reality , Atma is the One who may be unconscious , conscious > , or Pure conscious and by whose Will , whether explicit or implicit , the > entire Creation comes to be and evolves. This is, of course , my personal > reading of the matter or my imaginings, if you like. > > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 1:50 AM, vamadevananda <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Precisely : one, expect a response you may find weird ... >> >> and, two, anybody who finds sexism in the use of ' he ' and ' she,' >> for entities such as God ( though I mostly do not understand what >> people mean by the word ! ), is surely letting us know more about >> oneself than the entity being discussed. For, in that context, the >> words he and she can only refer to nature or principles, not sexuality >> or gender >> >> On Jul 28, 2:04 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote: >> > ok....that was a very weird response...it was just a question... nothing >> > personal about it... >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 2:02 AM, ashok tewari <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > > Hey Kid, there is nothing sexist about male and female. It's in our >> mind. >> > > May be you'll be comfortable with your gender one day. >> > >> > > Let it be he, she, it or shit. It's the being signified that is meant. >> > > Ironically, the non - living forms and supports the living ! Perhaps >> there >> > > is life in what we term as non - living ? >> > >> > > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:30 AM, pol.science kid < >> [email protected]>wrote: >> > >> > >> I get wat you are saying RP.. but i was talking in ...well..wordly >> > >> terms...and c'mon..lets not be sexists..it could be SHe >> also..although i >> > >> think it should be ....'IT'..which brings me to a questions why do we >> > >> attribute male/female qualities to certain non-living things... my >> question >> > >> is why is life 'her' or 'she'..i mean i have heard in songs and read >> in >> > >> poems..life i have never seen reffered to as 'he'... and mostly cars >> are >> > >> 'she'... wat alll can you think of...varies from language to >> language.. i >> > >> can speak for hindi..its very gendered.. wouldnt you agree >> Vam....eg..tea is >> > >> a she in hindi..so is alcohol..so is a CD.. >> > >> On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:51 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> > >>> PSK , there is no 'us' but only He. That's my view-point. >> > >> > >>> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 8:09 AM, pol.science kid < >> [email protected]>wrote: >> > >> > >>>> now.. i was thinking.. by the inner you.. do you by any chance mean >> the >> > >>>> 'us' we are not really aware of..kind of like the subconcious >> you...and by >> > >>>> the outer you do you mean the face we show to the >> world..figuratively...for >> > >>>> my part i am aware of 3 "me's"...the outer me..who plays the role >> in the >> > >>>> world..responds and acts according to situation..the inner me..or >> my >> > >>>> thoughts and my experience ... and further back ..the self in the >> > >>>> shadows..which knows and has all the answers..but i dare not bring >> this self >> > >>>> to the fore..because i am aware that it will shatter the self-image >> my inner >> > >>>> self has created of me..its mostly fear of the unknown..and the >> > >>>> consequences..(conquering yourself is the most difficult thing i >> think)..but >> > >>>> it watches from behind nevertheless..and you are aware of >> it..perhaps there >> > >>>> are infinite layers..which reveal themselves as you grow... if >> any of >> > >>>> this makes sense..... >> > >> > >>>> On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Molly <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> > >>>>> There is a pattern in life that goes like this: if we are >> confronted >> > >>>>> with a problem, want to know ourselves, or are looking for >> particular >> > >>>>> meaning in life – and we take this into the contemplative space, >> hold >> > >>>>> the question in our mind, dwell on it before sleep each night – >> > >>>>> however we ask and continue to ask in silence - the answers to our >> > >>>>> questions will eventually come to us. This pattern is age old, >> found >> > >>>>> in ancient texts such as the bible “ask and ye shall receive, >> knock >> > >>>>> and the door shall be opened to you,” Luke 11:9 >> > >> > >>>>> "We have not even to risk the adventure alone, for the heroes of >> all >> > >>>>> time have gone before us - the labyrinth is thoroughly known. We >> have >> > >>>>> only to follow the thread of the hero path, and where we had >> thought >> > >>>>> to find an abomination, we shall find a god; where we had thought >> to >> > >>>>> slay another, we shall slay ourselves; where we had thought to >> travel >> > >>>>> outward, we shall come to the center of our own existence. And >> where >> > >>>>> we had thought to be alone, we shall be with all the world." >> Joseph >> > >>>>> Campbell, The Hero with a Thousand Faces >> > >> > >>>>> I find these answers can come from anywhere, and often the most >> > >>>>> unexpected places: a spam email, a Facebook post, a passing remark >> > >>>>> from a stranger, and intimate disclosure from a loved one. >> Whatever >> > >>>>> the source, the act of recognizing the answers we are given is >> > >>>>> recognition of enduring fulfillment. We are recognizing spirit in >> > >>>>> action, energy in motion, Divine Action. It can all occur in >> silence >> > >>>>> within us, or be expressed in creativity, but it is always the >> > >>>>> realization of the inner you. And in this kind of heroic >> discovery >> > >>>>> you find that this inner you in fact is what governs your outer >> you. >> > >> > >>>>> What do YOU think? >> > >> > >>>> -- >> > >>>> \--/ Peace >> > >> > >> -- >> > >> \--/ Peace >> > >> > > -- >> > > ASHOK TEWARI >> > >> > -- >> > \--/ Peace >> > > -- ASHOK TEWARI
