"... On Aug 21, 10:39 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]>
wrote: ..."

> “Before enlightenment, chop wood carry water.
> After enlightenment, chop wood carry water.”
>
> Not great, but will do for now.

Will do quite nicely.

> As an aside, many have shared what the path and attainment are and are
> like…the issue is that this is not groked by those who have not

I won't speak for others but my path to whatever enlightenment I have
gained has been tough, arduous and very late in coming.  For years I
wandered the desert in my mind knowing nothing, reacting to
everything.  Then in my thirties I began to develop mentally and
spiritually eventually leading to what I consider to be a beginning of
enlightenment only when I achieved my sixties.  Now beginning my
seventies I am finally starting to feel I've achieved some real
understanding of myself, my species and my Universe.

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