How is one to know for certain that their direct experience of "consciousness" 
is the same for each perceiver. 

We know there is a continuum of consciousness. This strongly suggests that any 
state of consciousness must necessary be relative 

to a given observer. The idea of transcending concepts to a sustained unified 
uninterpreted state of at-one-ment may temporarily feel good to the experience 
- like I imagine a recently fed baby feels resting his/her head on its mother's 
breast - . But aside from a positive feeling state what else would constitute 
direct knowledge of a state that presumably transcends all concepts? 

 


 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: ornamentalmind <[email protected]>
To: "Minds Eye" <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, Aug 30, 2010 4:21 pm
Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: Direct Knowledge


What do you think?



On Aug 30, 6:23 am, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:

> This is why Molly end her snippets with the direct demand: "What do

> YOU think?"

> Try to answer her next time. ;-)

>

> On 30 Aug., 05:30, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:

>

>

>

> > from Chogyam Trungpa: DIRECT KNOWLEDGE

>

> > "In the study of Buddhist philosophy, from the start one tries to

> > transcend concepts, and one tries, perhaps in a very critical way, to

> > find out what /is. /One has to develop a critical mind that will

> > stimulate intelligence. If one cultivates intelligent, intuitive

> > insight, then gradually real intuitive feeling develops, and any

> > imaginary or hallucinatory element is clarified and eventually dies

> > out. Finally, the vague feeling of discovery becomes very clear, so

> > that almost no doubt remains. Even at this stage, it is possible that

> > one may be unable to explain one's discovery verbally or write it down

> > exactly on paper. In fact, if one tried to do so, it would be limiting

> > one's scope and would be rather dangerous. Nevertheless, one finally

> > attains direct knowledge, rather than achieving something which is

> > separate from oneself. This can only be achieved through the practice

> > of meditation, which is not a question of going into some inward

> > depth, but of widening and expanding outward." -  Condensed from

> > "Meditation," in /Meditation in Action/, pages 78 to 79. Shambhala

> > Library Edition.


 

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