Forgive me for forgetting about this thread, Rigs. The old ways were of course left to the designers of such liberties without fear of castigation. Hopefully we have come to fruition in our attempts to civilize ourselves. Child labor practices and racial discrimination have ebbed. Still we have a long way to go. You and I are only a cog in the wheel of time. The ages only reveal our lack of awareness of the great beyond.
On Sep 20, 7:52 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > One has to see old photos of the European and Chinese immigrants of > the 19th Century and their miserable lives, Slip. There was also a > comparable Gilded Age. Many Union soldiers were paid to fight for > someone else- I think they got $300. Eventually those Irish and > Scandanavians became the 20th C. middle class with little more or less > than a high school education. Being the richest country hasn't > protected the population from many social ills but look on the bright > side- even the very rich will have to cope with air, water, food > safety,etc. and mingle with the unwashed or sucker them to buy > products or con them for votes. C'est la vie! > > On Sep 19, 8:53 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I know it is basically conspiracy theorist notion but the government > > has failed to implement and maintain higher standards of education for > > what I perceived to be intentional reasoning. They can't pull the > > wool over the eyes of the intelligent and must therefore produce more > > of the ignorant. How else could education have resolved to below > > standard in a country that is/was the richest in the world? It's the > > ignorant peasants that become the migrant workers who serve and there > > are those who want to climb out of the poverty trenches that join > > military and carry out the wishes of those in charge. The sign up > > bonus can be quite attractive to some. When too many people get > > climb high on the ladder they have to cut off part of the bottom to > > keep them below a certain level. > > I have to say though, that I never really did see it coming; never > > thought it would be like this today. But I think not only did some > > people know but actually needed it to be this way. > > > On Sep 18, 4:51 pm, ashok tewari <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > So true, Slip, about the generational and reading thing ! > > > > I suspect but that nobody taps googlegroups anymore. They inquire enough > > > into their worries, academics, jobs and careers, to be any good at > > > initiating or engaging in any earnest or philosophical discussion. > > > > They have needs, not questions. It requires google promotion of fora like > > > Minds Eye, merely to inform netizens of the availability of such > > > platforms. > > > I know of people who are disappointed with both FB and Twits ! > > > > On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Vam, you should know and recognize the generational breakdown of mind, > > > > sense, spirit and soul. Google groups have become the playground for > > > > the text generation, the made for tv category. They know nothing > > > > except what the media hype has taught them. Be hard pressed to find > > > > someone who has ever heard of Pythagoras and the significance to > > > > modern day mathematics. Ask about Jersey shore or the Kardashians and > > > > you will get all the info, the whole scoop, all the names, ages and > > > > hair styles. We are the generation that will spend our later years > > > > taking about "When I was a kid we actually read books". ME has > > > > become bland with those of us who have been about for so long tired of > > > > rehashed philosophies. The world is heading toward an abysmal > > > > future. Gravity may be a good example of that with myriad trite and > > > > simple minded conversations of, "what did you eat tonight, what did > > > > you do today, what is your favorite color, share some photos etc." > > > > Any attempt at real philosophical discussions ends after an average 6 > > > > posts. > > > > > On Sep 18, 12:46 pm, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > How unused ? Shade abandoned ! > > > > > > Perhaps, it's happening across all googlegroups. There are other fora > > > > > now, with less demand on focus, less rigorous and committed. > > > > > > I don't know how I could help ? So, I'm doing the next best thing : > > > > > reaching out to all of you ! > > > > > > I have a feeling - Ian could clear the way in one stroke. And Neil > > > > > could provide the lighter beats. Fran could share his most recent > > > > > experience. And Chris could tell us how the images he now captures > > > > > through his lens is science or art ! > > > > > > On Sep 3, 10:56 pm, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I do sense an aspect of timelessness in the platform, on which > > > > > > people > > > > > > with fundamental questions or doubts met and discoursed to clarify. > > > > > > > What happened was people began ' arriving ' at their fixed and > > > > > > hardened perspectives, views or values. Which makes an open > > > > > > conversation impossible, for there is mere reiteration of known > > > > > > positions. Like, it would be disappointing if we came to clear the > > > > > > ground and found it littered with buildings of all sorts, including > > > > > > those one may disagree with or dislike. > > > > > > > I believe the developments take nothing away from the timelessness > > > > > > of > > > > > > ME. But we need to go back to discussing fundamental issues, aspects > > > > > > or terms. For instances, I am till date intrigued by what people > > > > > > mean > > > > > > when they use the term ' capitalism.' Ideally, the user should be > > > > > > able > > > > > > to enlighten us with all ideate dimensions to the term - practice, > > > > > > structure, economic values system, moral values, ethical values, and > > > > > > way - of - life beliefs and philosophy. > > > > > > > The discussion would of course veer to alternate systems and > > > > > > philosophies ... and so on. The participants definitely make their > > > > > > own > > > > > > informed or cultural choices along the way. Life itself clarifies > > > > > > the > > > > > > rest of the way. And perhaps the discourse gets upgraded ... > > > > > > sometime ... if there are enough interested members to infuse life > > > > > > !! > > > > -- > > > ASHOK TEWARI- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -
