First, let me preface my comment by saying that I was being facetious about
only believing my senses. I do believe that there are things out there that
are as yet unexplained (note that I didn't say things that can't be
explained).

Science has yet to come up with a truly consistent theory that explains all
aspects of reality. However, it does seem reasonable to use the our senses
as the foundation of a belief system that models our reality.

I guess that what I'm trying to say is that while some may look into a cloud
of mist and see a ghost, I would tend to believe that the ghost is just
water droplets being stirred around by the wind. I don't entirely reject the
possibility that the ghost might in fact be a ghost. I just put the
likelihood very low on my list of probable explanations.

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:52 AM, Ash <[email protected]> wrote:

> Fair enough, I don't feel much into reading about gnosis at this time
> either! :) It was just a reference and one I derive little sense of
> authority from in this case. It took me a while to get my thoughts collected
> in just shabby form here but here it is for consideration, all IMO in
> general.
>
> I can relate to feeling and thinking that way myself, however there are
> aspects of materialism that are just unavailable to today's minds without
> passing through some serious mind benders. In principle I do agree, but only
> on the grounds that the potential depth of interconnections in our universe
> should allow a linkage between any arbitrary thing and another. As a
> principle of philosophy it could also be very beneficial to keep one's head
> 'tethered', very practical and utilitarian. At times much of what I hear
> sounds like five nines of BS, but that one thousandth of intuitive capacity
> can read in real time what would take a very long time indeed to fully
> expose in subordinate intuitive terms (or 'hard' sciences). That doesn't
> mean it is an unworthy undertaking, but the opposite, very laborious but
> even more important.
>
> There is an idea in various forms (out in the wild) which explains that the
> varying sciences, arts and philosophies are not at odds as one would suppose
> from studying them or being taught. As mental models or exercises to prepare
> mental perception they are schools and arts to focus and approach problems
> or questions. As imperfect representations of fact or truth they are tools
> of navigating information and knowledge, landmarks, references. By
> recombining approaches in various fields you could eventually reach
> propositions and explanations in many others refining, reinforcing,
> undermining. This includes the normal senses, and the institutionalization
> of perception by our genetic makeup. I think it applies to all the domains
> of experience and inquiry that can pass through our minds and can unlock
> vast potential for free association of transmuting symbols. With the aim of
> building better tools to comprehend and master what and where we are I
> invite you to consider the (perhaps) one thousandth of valuable experiential
> contributions that science is just beginning to explain.  Just the potential
> contributions, not the dogmas or interpretations. If for nothing else,
> science without imagination is dead in the water, but I believe it will take
> many millennia for science to make religion (or better the spiritual aspect)
> obsolete. I think this would be an amazing Renaissance time for all areas of
> human experience.
>

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