>From a top-down perspective this is correct. But I understood that PSK asked for individual responses from each of us.
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:09 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > But you have to admit there are humans who haven't the chance to even > consider this type of thinking as their lives are miserable due to > poverty, war, sickness and all other ills. Plus- what does a culture > celebrate? Wealth? Power? Etc.? You can hardly fault some for buying a > false self and image if that is what their culture teaches them, can > you? It takes a brave rebel to contradict society or challenge group > thought. > > On May 2, 12:20 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > If the selfish would truly search their self, they'd quickly die out. > > Problem is how they don't see themselves but see themselves in the others > > with the poor others not knowing that they are not taken for themselves > but > > for someone else. My explanation. > > > > On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 6:57 PM, pol.science kid <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > at the first glance of your reply came a thought to my mind about > > > collective consciousness...rather a question...does the collective > > > consciousness exist independently...what does it mean exactly...to put > it > > > crudely is it the realisation that you are not the only phenomena..but > what > > > i feel is....it is very difficult to transcend ones own person...but is > it > > > important....why do we really get irritated with self absorbed or self > > > seeking people....why do we condemn selfishness..in any sense...are we > so > > > insecure as to feel deprived because of that ...or is it something > more.. i > > > hope i make sense.. and i hope you get waht i am trying to ask...i > would > > > like all to answer...cos i really want to know.... > > > > > On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 7:36 PM, DarkwaterBlight < > [email protected]>wrote: > > > > >> This take appeals to my understanding. Perpetually changing, evolving > > >> and reforming. Input has an outcome and causes an expanded "mind > > >> space", if you will. Is logic all logical and what is to be said about > > >> rationalizing the "irrational"? Should my thinking be correct by the > > >> standards of others or to my own? What of "raising the bar" in > > >> consciousness and of a paradigm shift to a more correct thinking of > > >> our "collective mind" ? Of all that goes into into thought and mind is > > >> this not the desired effect? > > > > >> On Apr 30, 9:23 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > might thought be colored by the mind that engages it ....what is the > > >> realm > > >> > of pure thought that you mention here .... is it logic and > > >> > rationalisation...do you mean the method of employing that > > >> thought...because > > >> > ....knowing...percieving something for the first time the mind will > > >> > automatically fall back on the things it thinks it does know.... > > > > >> > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Chad Moore <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >> > > Knowledge unites, in being or in identity. Thinking separates, in > > >> > > subject-object relationship. > > >> > > Knowing has no place in the ordinary thought process. Thinking > about > > >> > > something > > >> > > which has to be known is wrong, since it moves in a vicious > circle. > > >> You > > >> > > cannot think > > >> > > of anything you have not known. Such thinking can never take you > to > > >> the > > >> > > Truth. > > >> > > But when you direct your thought to something (say yourself) which > you > > >> have > > >> > > otherwise > > >> > > visualized, the thought loses its own characteristics and limits, > and > > >> > > stands > > >> > > revealed as that Self (Consciousness) itself. Thought is thus > reduced > > >> into > > >> > > its essence. > > > > >> > -- > > >> > \--/ Peace- Hide quoted text - > > > > >> > - Show quoted text - > > > > > -- > > > \--/ Peace- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - >
