Nanotech is just the implementation of another layer of our understanding of
the universe. I think we still have a long ways to go before we actually
have a firm grasp on the true nature of reality.

On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Menfranco Laws <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi everybody!
> Well said Ash, where is Pat indeed when we need him to say God's
> things, because for me when you are talking about nanotech makes me
> thing about God and ask myself this question; Is this nanotech the
> link between us and God? Perhaps once we have learned enough about
> this nanotech we be able to understand how God works? Who knows? it is
> just a thought.
>
> On May 24, 9:48 am, Ash <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Where's Pat when we need him?
> >
> > On 5/23/2011 8:08 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > I'm fairly certian this site is not umm being honest.  As far as I
> > > know we simply have not yet managed to do this.
> >
> > > One of the biggest problems in quantum compting is that old quantum
> > > chestnut of simply by looking we influence the result.
> >
> > > With Quantum bit (Qbit) computing, the idea is to make use of the
> > > verious quantum states of a moclucule, so that a Qbit can hold
> > > possibly 4 (all to do with spin) pieces of data at the same time.  The
> > > problem comes in retriving this data and ensuring that by 'reading'
> > > the data it remains unchanged.
> >
> > > On May 20, 10:17 pm, gabbydott<[email protected]>  wrote:
> > >> Thanks for providing me with the right key words. And this is the
> stuff I
> > >> meant:http://www.dwavesys.com/en/products-services.html
> >
> > >> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Chuck Bowling<
> >
> > >> [email protected]>  wrote:
> > >>> Nanotechnology is used in a lot of places but it's still far from
> reaching
> > >>> its full potential. Right now most nanotech is just new applications
> of
> > >>> materials science. Potentially nanotech could be used to create
> robots
> > >>> smaller than a single human cell or for that matter to create new
> life.
> > >>> As to quantum physics, it provides insight into microelectronics. But
> the
> > >>> hope is that one day we will be able to create computers based on
> quantum
> > >>> spin. That still hasn't happened yet.
> > >>> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 9:58 AM, gabbydott<[email protected]>
>  wrote:
> > >>>> What? I thought nanotech was already in use in the cosmetics
> industry and
> > >>>> quantatech (is that how you call it?) in the computer industry.
> > >>>> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Chuck Bowling<
> > >>>> [email protected]>  wrote:
> > >>>>> I'm in agreement about the radical changes that nanotech appear to
> > >>>>> promise. Changes that could spell doom or a complete redefinition
> of what it
> > >>>>> is to be human. It's about the only thing that makes me want to
> live longer
> > >>>>> than my allotted time. Just so that I can see what miracles come
> next.
> > >>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Ash<[email protected]>  wrote:
> > >>>>>>   Yeah, I was fear mongering Chuck, a political device. ;-) This
> is a
> > >>>>>> favorite topic of mine, it is at the axis of many fields. To
> accelerate
> > >>>>>> nanotech development I think we should implement rapid
> prototyping,
> > >>>>>> experimentation and analysis systems. When I envision man at the
> beginning
> > >>>>>> of this revolution I look for tools that would allow an explosion
> > >>>>>> (figuratively) of development, being able to catalog and operate a
> multitude
> > >>>>>> of experiments in parallel, while building a massive library of
> modeled
> > >>>>>> behavior for materials and systems interoperating in the real
> world to
> > >>>>>> improve the robustness and diversity of this technology is
> apparently the
> > >>>>>> way to go. To think that the behavior of biological systems can be
> > >>>>>> abstracted and used to formulate dynamic systems guided by expert
> algorithms
> > >>>>>> to solve material challenges in real time guided by people over
> vast
> > >>>>>> distances, it goes beyond genetics, I am in awe at the potential
> universe we
> > >>>>>> are venturing toward. We will also be able to make changes to
> ourselves and
> > >>>>>> our experience of this world at a similar rate..
> > >>>>>> On 5/19/2011 1:41 AM, Chuck Bowling wrote:
> > >>>>>> I think that with nanotechnology we will be able to synthesize
> pretty
> > >>>>>> much anything we want from raw materials in the future. Assuming
> that any
> > >>>>>> alien race capable of traveling the trillions of miles to get here
> would
> > >>>>>> have at least the same level of technology my guess is that they
> wouldn't
> > >>>>>> need anything we'd have to offer.
> > >>>>>> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Ash<[email protected]>  wrote:
> > >>>>>>>   There is another good reason to develop our technologies as a
> species,
> > >>>>>>> think how we are looking at the planets and celestial bodies as
> vast
> > >>>>>>> resources. Imagine if something else came through and strip mined
> the
> > >>>>>>> resources we would need to develop into a spacefaring species,
> that would
> > >>>>>>> suck big time. Like a tribe of humans moving through and picking
> all the
> > >>>>>>> nuts we squirrels need, or worse, deciding we were in the way of
> those
> > >>>>>>> resources, think what we have done in those situations.. I know
> it's
> > >>>>>>> unlikely considering the vast resources out there, but something
> might have
> > >>>>>>> it's eye on our pale blue dot too, working faster than us at
> making the
> > >>>>>>> leap.
> > >>>>>>> On 5/18/2011 8:37 PM, Chuck Bowling wrote:
> > >>>>>>> I think right now the technology will only allow us to tell if a
> planet
> > >>>>>>> is rocky or a gas giant. And even then only if it is a relatively
> massive
> > >>>>>>> planet. The last time I read anything on the subject the smallest
> planet
> > >>>>>>> found was something like 3 times the size of the Earth.
> > >>>>>>> IMO, the analogy with Columbus doesn't hold. 17th century
> technology
> > >>>>>>> allowed humans to travel anywhere on the Earth - albeit slow and
> wrought
> > >>>>>>> with hazard. If the analogy is that a neighboring star is like a
> new
> > >>>>>>> continent then we are more like cavemen discovering that a log
> can float. At
> > >>>>>>> the rate we're going it might be a thousand years before we can
> actually
> > >>>>>>> mount an expedition to another star.
> > >>>>>>> I think the primary reason we are so far from actually exploring
> other
> > >>>>>>> stars is mainly political rather than technological. But, I think
> you are
> > >>>>>>> right. It is a project worth attaching too. Now if we could just
> make the
> > >>>>>>> damn politicians see it that way... ;)
> > >>>>>>> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 4:58 PM, archytas<[email protected]>
>  wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> I'm not sure how accurate they can be in revealing planets
> enough like
> > >>>>>>>> ours to offer possibilities of a new promised land.  They claim
> there
> > >>>>>>>> is one 20 light years away, or 300,000 years at current space
> travel
> > >>>>>>>> speeds.  One can feel that this at least puts us somewhere near
> the
> > >>>>>>>> position of 'Columbus'.  Our current 'tin-foil' technology won't
> do,
> > >>>>>>>> but at this kind of distance we are talking about something
> other than
> > >>>>>>>> worm-holes, 'relativity flight' or the kind of physics in which
> > >>>>>>>> distance is an illusion.
> > >>>>>>>> For someone like me who can't take god-stories seriously and
> quite
> > >>>>>>>> likes the idea of a human future (or at least the idea of
> evolution
> > >>>>>>>> not just ending through catastrophe), there is an opportunity to
> > >>>>>>>> believe in something distant in time and a need for us to direct
> > >>>>>>>> ourselves towards it.  A time, perhaps in which a form of
> conscious
> > >>>>>>>> life can live very differently from now, and a project worth
> attaching
> > >>>>>>>> to - perhaps a reason for spirituality.  Comments on this or the
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