I think that if you're going to talk about human behavior you should differentiate between social and individual behavior. I don't think that the behavior of humans as individuals has changed much since we climbed out of the trees. As social animals I think we are constantly evolving and adapting to our environments.
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 8:33 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > Maybe we should reduce the time frame to 3 or 4 thousand years. > > I dragged you into my midnight thoughts and remembered a film- > Japanese- "Roshoman" which I saw later than its release time of 1950 > which got into this "what is reality" business and made somewhat of an > impact on my thinking along with "point of view". I suppose this might > lead off into empathy but it still would not solve the definition of > "What Is Reality?". > > Will post another topic that is related to "human nature"- "human > rights". > > On May 31, 6:00 pm, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]> > wrote: > > To be honest, I'm not even sure what 'human nature' means. > > > > As to reality, I think that we all struggle to try and understand it. > > Scientists want to define it with logic and theologians want to define it > > with religious belief. > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 4:03 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Do you think human nature will change- ever? Then it really doesn't > > > matter about reality. > > > > > On May 29, 7:36 pm, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > Nanotech is just the implementation of another layer of our > understanding > > > of > > > > the universe. I think we still have a long ways to go before we > actually > > > > have a firm grasp on the true nature of reality. > > > > > > On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Menfranco Laws <[email protected] > > > > > wrote: > > > > > Hi everybody! > > > > > Well said Ash, where is Pat indeed when we need him to say God's > > > > > things, because for me when you are talking about nanotech makes me > > > > > thing about God and ask myself this question; Is this nanotech the > > > > > link between us and God? Perhaps once we have learned enough about > > > > > this nanotech we be able to understand how God works? Who knows? it > is > > > > > just a thought. > > > > > > > On May 24, 9:48 am, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Where's Pat when we need him? > > > > > > > > On 5/23/2011 8:08 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm fairly certian this site is not umm being honest. As far > as I > > > > > > > know we simply have not yet managed to do this. > > > > > > > > > One of the biggest problems in quantum compting is that old > quantum > > > > > > > chestnut of simply by looking we influence the result. > > > > > > > > > With Quantum bit (Qbit) computing, the idea is to make use of > the > > > > > > > verious quantum states of a moclucule, so that a Qbit can hold > > > > > > > possibly 4 (all to do with spin) pieces of data at the same > time. > > > The > > > > > > > problem comes in retriving this data and ensuring that by > 'reading' > > > > > > > the data it remains unchanged. > > > > > > > > > On May 20, 10:17 pm, gabbydott<[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> Thanks for providing me with the right key words. And this is > the > > > > > stuff I > > > > > > >> meant:http://www.dwavesys.com/en/products-services.html > > > > > > > > >> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Chuck Bowling< > > > > > > > > >> [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >>> Nanotechnology is used in a lot of places but it's still far > from > > > > > reaching > > > > > > >>> its full potential. Right now most nanotech is just new > > > applications > > > > > of > > > > > > >>> materials science. Potentially nanotech could be used to > create > > > > > robots > > > > > > >>> smaller than a single human cell or for that matter to create > new > > > > > life. > > > > > > >>> As to quantum physics, it provides insight into > microelectronics. > > > But > > > > > the > > > > > > >>> hope is that one day we will be able to create computers > based on > > > > > quantum > > > > > > >>> spin. That still hasn't happened yet. > > > > > > >>> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 9:58 AM, gabbydott< > [email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >>>> What? I thought nanotech was already in use in the cosmetics > > > > > industry and > > > > > > >>>> quantatech (is that how you call it?) in the computer > industry. > > > > > > >>>> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Chuck Bowling< > > > > > > >>>> [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>> I'm in agreement about the radical changes that nanotech > appear > > > to > > > > > > >>>>> promise. Changes that could spell doom or a complete > > > redefinition > > > > > of what it > > > > > > >>>>> is to be human. It's about the only thing that makes me > want to > > > > > live longer > > > > > > >>>>> than my allotted time. Just so that I can see what miracles > > > come > > > > > next. > > > > > > >>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Ash<[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>> Yeah, I was fear mongering Chuck, a political device. > ;-) > > > This > > > > > is a > > > > > > >>>>>> favorite topic of mine, it is at the axis of many fields. > To > > > > > accelerate > > > > > > >>>>>> nanotech development I think we should implement rapid > > > > > prototyping, > > > > > > >>>>>> experimentation and analysis systems. When I envision man > at > > > the > > > > > beginning > > > > > > >>>>>> of this revolution I look for tools that would allow an > > > explosion > > > > > > >>>>>> (figuratively) of development, being able to catalog and > > > operate a > > > > > multitude > > > > > > >>>>>> of experiments in parallel, while building a massive > library > > > of > > > > > modeled > > > > > > >>>>>> behavior for materials and systems interoperating in the > real > > > > > world to > > > > > > >>>>>> improve the robustness and diversity of this technology is > > > > > apparently the > > > > > > >>>>>> way to go. To think that the behavior of biological > systems > > > can be > > > > > > >>>>>> abstracted and used to formulate dynamic systems guided by > > > expert > > > > > algorithms > > > > > > >>>>>> to solve material challenges in real time guided by people > > > over > > > > > vast > > > > > > >>>>>> distances, it goes beyond genetics, I am in awe at the > > > potential > > > > > universe we > > > > > > >>>>>> are venturing toward. We will also be able to make changes > to > > > > > ourselves and > > > > > > >>>>>> our experience of this world at a similar rate.. > > > > > > >>>>>> On 5/19/2011 1:41 AM, Chuck Bowling wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>> I think that with nanotechnology we will be able to > synthesize > > > > > pretty > > > > > > >>>>>> much anything we want from raw materials in the future. > > > Assuming > > > > > that any > > > > > > >>>>>> alien race capable of traveling the trillions of miles to > get > > > here > > > > > would > > > > > > >>>>>> have at least the same level of technology my guess is > that > > > they > > > > > wouldn't > > > > > > >>>>>> need anything we'd have to offer. > > > > > > >>>>>> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Ash<[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>> There is another good reason to develop our > technologies as > > > a > > > > > species, > > > > > > >>>>>>> think how we are looking at the planets and celestial > bodies > > > as > > > > > vast > > > > > > >>>>>>> resources. Imagine if something else came through and > strip > > > mined > > > > > the > > > > > > >>>>>>> resources we would need to develop into a spacefaring > > > species, > > > > > that would > > > > > > >>>>>>> suck big time. Like a tribe of humans moving through and > > > picking > > > > > all the > > > > > > >>>>>>> nuts we squirrels need, or worse, deciding we were in the > way > > > of > > > > > those > > > > > > >>>>>>> resources, think what we have done in those situations.. > I > > > know > > > > > it's > > > > > > >>>>>>> unlikely considering the vast resources out there, but > > > something > > > > > might have > > > > > > >>>>>>> it's eye on our pale blue dot too, working faster than us > at > > > > > making the > > > > > > >>>>>>> leap. > > > > > > >>>>>>> On 5/18/2011 8:37 PM, Chuck Bowling wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>> I think right now the technology will only allow us to > tell > > > if a > > > > > planet > > > > > > >>>>>>> is rocky or a gas giant. And even then only if it is a > > > relatively > > > > > massive > > > > > > >>>>>>> planet. The last time I read anything on the subject the > > > smallest > > > > > planet > > > > > > >>>>>>> found was something like 3 times the size of the Earth. > > > > > > >>>>>>> IMO, the analogy with Columbus doesn't hold. 17th century > > > > > technology > > > > > > >>>>>>> allowed humans to travel anywhere on the Earth - albeit > slow > > > and > > > > > wrought > > > > > > >>>>>>> with hazard. If the analogy is that a neighboring star is > > > like a > > > > > new > > > > > > >>>>>>> continent then we are more like cavemen discovering that > a > > > log > > > > > can float. At > > > > > > >>>>>>> the rate we're going it might be a thousand years before > we > > > can > > > > > actually > > > > > > >>>>>>> mount an expedition to another star. > > > > > > >>>>>>> I think the primary reason we are so far from actually > > > exploring > > > > > other > > > > > > >>>>>>> stars is mainly political rather than technological. But, > I > > > think > > > > > you are > > > > > > >>>>>>> right. It is a project worth attaching too. Now if we > could > > > just > > > > > make the > > > > > > >>>>>>> damn politicians see it that way... ;) > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 4:58 PM, archytas< > [email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>> I'm not sure how accurate they can be in revealing > planets > > > > > enough like > > > > > > >>>>>>>> ours to offer possibilities of a new promised land. > They > > > claim > > > > > there > > > > > > >>>>>>>> is one 20 light years away, or 300,000 years at current > > > space > > > > > travel > > > > > > >>>>>>>> speeds. One can feel that this at least puts us > somewhere > > > near > > > > > the > > > > > > >>>>>>>> position of 'Columbus'. Our current 'tin-foil' > technology > > > won't > > > > > do, > > > > > > >>>>>>>> but at this kind of distance we are talking about > something > > > > > other than > > > > > > >>>>>>>> worm-holes, 'relativity flight' or the kind of physics > in > > > which > > > > > > >>>>>>>> distance is an illusion. > > > > > > >>>>>>>> For someone like me who can't take god-stories seriously > and > > > > > quite > > > > > > >>>>>>>> likes the idea of a human future (or at least the idea > of > > > > > evolution > > > > > > >>>>>>>> not just ending through catastrophe), there is an > > > opportunity to > > > > > > >>>>>>>> believe in something distant in time and a need for us > to > > > direct > > > > > > >>>>>>>> ourselves towards it. A time, perhaps in which a form > of > > > > > conscious > > > > > > >>>>>>>> life can live very differently from now, and a project > worth > > > > > attaching > > > > > > >>>>>>>> to - perhaps a reason for spirituality. 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