I dud not say it wrong Lee ,,  to begin to make some sense out of the spiritual 
world and it's relationship to the physical plain which we exist in..  Well no 
one comes up with how and where and when souls are created. Seems to be a big 
void..
What does make sense is that the soul all ready exist and is actually reborn 
into the physical plain. That would logically the spiritual being is 
experiencing death to become human and has to strive toward the eventual return 
to the spiritual plain.. Now when a person dies as it is understood, the 
reality as I am seeing it it is actually a Pearson experiencing their 
resurrection or rebirth into the spiritual realm.
LOL now the topic is clear as mud, 
Allan

On 4 aug. 2011, at 17:04, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote:

> Heh Allen,
> 
> I think you have it the wrong way around mate.
> 
> Lee says:
> 
> Death in and of itself is not inherently evil.
> 
> Then agian what is inherant evil?
> 
> On Aug 2, 7:57 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
>> so do things like epilepsy,,  I know ,, there are many influences in our
>> wold,
>> 
>> I am still trying to figure out how Lee arrived that death
>> is inherently evil..   hmmm  just had the thought  that maybe it is because
>> those who were not ...  naw  that does not make sense either..
>> Allan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 5:45 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Emotions in the petri-dish - makes more sense than at first sight.
>>> Bacteria influence our emotions.
>> 
>>> On Aug 1, 9:58 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Yes- we should have mercy and charity in our hearts via money,
>>>> donations or enforced taxation. But...does not greed lead to wars? And
>>>> who are the greedy?
>> 
>>>> On Aug 1, 9:16 am, Allan Heretic <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>>>> Rigsy I did not start the wars,, or bring on the famines that ravage
>>> the world there'd is little that I can do....  But I am required when a
>>> person does not have enough money to pay for their groceries to fid their
>>> children I am obliged to use my debt card to pay for it rather than let them
>>> go hungry. I need to be responsible .  And yes I set up my own guidelines
>>> that I try to follow.
>>>>> Allan
>> 
>>>>> On 1 aug. 2011, at 15:21, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>>>>> How can you be grateful when there are so many starving people in the
>>>>>> world? How about scared or humbled?
>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 31, 12:35 am, Johanna <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> Biochemical implications? Really? Dear gabbydott, my life did not
>>> begin in a
>>>>>>> petri dish. The subject of this thread was about worship. I was
>>> trying to
>>>>>>> explain that my form of worship is gratitude. You my friend,
>>> attempted to
>>>>>>> humiliate me by stating that I pray before meals. Well let me be
>>> more clear.
>>>>>>> I'm thankful for everything I experience, including the ability to
>>>>>>> occasionally dine in fine restaurants. But importantly, I'm thankful
>>> the
>>>>>>> right to feel every emotion there is.... because that my dear is
>>> what we all
>>>>>>> have in common, emotions. Put that in your petri dish and study it!
>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:04 PM, <
>>> [email protected]>wrote:
>> 
>>>>>>>>   Today's Topic Summary
>> 
>>>>>>>> Group:http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye/topics
>> 
>>>>>>>>    - Worship <#13178ffe3b493de6_group_thread_0> [3 Updates]
>> 
>>>>>>>>   Topic: Worship<
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye/t/d633e7ffa9e9365>
>> 
>>>>>>>>    Jo <[email protected]> Jul 29 01:33PM -0700
>>> ^<#13178ffe3b493de6_digest_top>
>> 
>>>>>>>>    No. It's random and has only happened 3 times. I do not meditate
>>> or
>>>>>>>>    even seek spiritual enlightenment. I'm just living my life like
>>>>>>>>    everyone else.
>> 
>>>>>>>>    Jo <[email protected]> Jul 29 01:35PM -0700
>>> ^<#13178ffe3b493de6_digest_top>
>> 
>>>>>>>>    It wasn't meant to remind anything to anyone. I was only sharing
>>> my
>>>>>>>>    experience. I'm sorry if you found it too rudimentary.
>> 
>>>>>>>>    gabbydott <[email protected]> Jul 30 01:18AM +0200
>>> ^<#13178ffe3b493de6_digest_top>
>> 
>>>>>>>>    I was wondering wether you were discussing the biochemical
>>> implications
>>>>>>>>    of
>>>>>>>>    your experiences - that is why i asked. The judgement is of
>>> course
>>>>>>>>    solely
>>>>>>>>    upon you.
>>>>>>>>    Am 30.07.2011 00:08 schrieb "Jo" <[email protected]>:-
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>> I_D Allan
>> 
>> If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
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