I know Orn I think a person must admit when they are out of line and stand up taking responsibility. Allan
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 11:14 PM, ornamentalmind <[email protected]>wrote: > Lee...it must have been behind the scenes before ... that or it is now > automated...or, perhaps someone else has started to moderate? > > I took no offense; however, there are people new to ME so I did what I > could to clarify the issue in few words. > > Oh, and we agree...in fact, I'm much more against Google's censorship > that most I'd guess. > > On Aug 8, 4:45 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hey Om, > > > > I was not attributing any blame to your good self mate, merely > > expressing my dislike for a kind of Google cesorship that in reality > > has not seemed to apply before now. > > > > As I say hohum! > > > > On Aug 6, 1:31 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Lee, it isn’t this group’s rules to not use profanity alone…when you > > > joined Google Groups in general, you automatically accepted their > > > terms. I didn’t moderate you nor Archy…I did release both of your > > > posts that were held in the moderated queue automatically by Google. > > > > > For this group, you will see that we have been asking you to “…Avoid > > > swearing/cussing, unless it is absolutely pertinent to the discussion > > > at hand. Sometimes it happens naturally in the flow of a sentence -- > > > and I'm guilty of it -- but there are many far more creative ways to > > > express yourself….” - > http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye/web/posting-guidelines > > > > > For Google’s “Terms of Service”, something we all accepted when > > > joining Google Groups, in general we have almost no rights. See: > http://groups.google.com/intl/en/googlegroups/terms_of_service.html > > > > > Language usage is mentioned there too. > > > > > OM > > > Group Moderator > > > > > On Aug 5, 4:35 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Well that is strange, I never noticed anything from this end, I can > > > > see my posts and their responses. > > > > > > I'm not happy that Google wishes to curtial my use of language, > > > > easpecily my use of the F word, which I regard as commonly used in > > > > every day situations, and nobody bats an eyelid. > > > > > > Hohum and the world turns. > > > > > > On Aug 5, 12:08 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > Lee, Google put you back on moderation automatically. I can only > guess > > > > > for the language you used here. Those who included your post in > their > > > > > response (Archy) were also put on moderation automatically. Please > > > > > save me the work and express yourself without profanity, OK? > Thanks! > > > > > OM > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 2:25 pm, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Well Allan, > > > > > > > > That is exatly the point. I have no credit or debit cards. I do > it > > > > > > on porpouse, I do not wish to live beyond my means. I mean of > course > > > > > > that if I have not the ready cash to pay for somthing, then I > would > > > > > > rather go without it, than owe somebody money for it. > > > > > > > > Yes this means that if I do not have the cash to pay for > something > > > > > > then I go without it until I can afford to pay for it. But > really > > > > > > this is the best thing for me. My will power is nil, I have a > > > > > > massivly addictive personality, so it is best for me to live this > way, > > > > > > if I can't afford it, I will do without it, if I have the cash > then I > > > > > > will have what I want. Credit, debit no no no, don't take a > chance on > > > > > > me with that coz I will fuck you up. And of course by fucking > you up, > > > > > > I'll fuck myself up. > > > > > > > > No no no, it is easy. If I want something and I have not the > cash to > > > > > > pay for it then I'll save until I do have the cash. Take > something > > > > > > now and pay for it later! Are you fucking mad? I'll fucking > knock ya > > > > > > mate, don't give me credit, it will get you and me in trouble. > No no > > > > > > no, no cash no purchase. > > > > > > > > This is the way I must live my life. > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 8:31 pm, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Lee to bad you don't live over here yu would just transfer the > money to > > > > > > > their bank account via a ATM or Debit card depending what you > call it,, > > > > > > > then the send you the package or you pic it up. > > > > > > > no need to use a credit card electronic banking can be great.. > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Lee Douglas < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I don't e-bay myself Rigsy, I don't do credit and so have no > cards. > > > > > > > > > > As to the supper rich, what is the uses of keeping millions > in the > > > > > > > > bank? I mean you can't spend it all before you die, you can't > take it > > > > > > > > with you, so I guess you leave it to the kids, and then they > still > > > > > > > > wont be able to spend it all, nor their kids. > > > > > > > > > > Money simply does not 'trickle down', those who have vast > ammounts of > > > > > > > > it do all they can to keep it, and I can see no logical > reasons for > > > > > > > > doing so. Share the wealth, yes indeed. > > > > > > > > > > Materialism, yes I guess you are right, although I hope not. > I think > > > > > > > > whne the day comes when the whole world is fed and has a nice > pile of > > > > > > > > stuff it may cease to be so important. Once again I must > declare > > > > > > > > 'Robot Work Force' Yeah baby come on, I hope I see the day. > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 1:01 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Have you checked out e-bay? Plus the super-rich have not > changed their > > > > > > > > > desires/shopping patterns as far as I can tell. It will be > difficult/ > > > > > > > > > impossible to inhibit materialism as it springs from > insecurity or > > > > > > > > > hostility and is held as a positive value in a capitalist > society. In > > > > > > > > > a sense, we "barter" cash for goods and services. > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 9:47 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed I am, I don't think bartering is a viable option. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 2:51 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are talking about the super-rich. Money attracts > thieves and > > > > > > > > > > > lawyers. Most want money to remain independent and > "just enough" is > > > > > > > > > > > just fine. We could barter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 6:44 am, Lee Douglas < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meh! It's all the same ole same ole innit . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's greed plain and simple, I think how much money > does one perosn > > > > > > > > > > > > need to libe as they wish. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do the extreamly rich do all they can to keep > their money, I > > > > > > > > mean > > > > > > > > > > > > what are they going to do with it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ultimatly we must find a better way, a replacement > for material > > > > > > > > > > > > wealth, and get rid of the whole concept of money. > How though > > > > > > > > ummmm? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 8:43 am, allan deheretic < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rigsy,, boy are you a sensitive extreme > conservative republican > > > > > > > > > > > > > as president Rosevelt put it.. a conservative a > person with two > > > > > > > > perfectly > > > > > > > > > > > > > good legs and refuses to walk... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all wealthy people have no right to live off the > poor... they > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > > > regardless of political view or party need to pay > their share of > > > > > > > > taxes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't tell me that they create job because they > don't. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as for people sending money to relatives.. you put > a maximum > > > > > > > > that can be > > > > > > > > > > > > > sent tax free. say 5000 dollars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 4:09 PM, rigsy03 < > [email protected]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who would invest under your system? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What about the government reducing its > expenditures by 35%? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing's to stop wealthy Liberals/Democrats from > sending their > > > > > > > > excess > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wealth to their government(s)-federal, state, > local. Why don't > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they? :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Immigrants send money to their relatives also. I > thought the > > > > > > > > world was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flat, at last! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why would people turn their labor/income over to > a bloated/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > spendthrift/ incompetant government like > robots/slaves? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 2, 2:31 am, allan deheretic < > [email protected]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Being american,, I think taxes are necessary > but taxes need > > > > > > > > to be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dependent > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > income.. the greater the income the greater > the taxes.. and > > > > > > > > removal of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tax exemptions especially on capital gains..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am beginning to think that a petition needs > to be > > > > > > > > circulated placing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a mandatory 35% on income over $250,000.oo with > no > > > > > > > > exemptions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That would go a long way to helping the relive > the national > > > > > > > > debt.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also think all nation should have a 35% tax > on money > > > > > > > > leaving a nation.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I_D Allan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > ( > > > > > > > > > > > > > ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > I_D Allan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > > > > > > > > > > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide > quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > ( > > > > > > > ) > > > > > > > I_D Allan > > > > > > > > > If you > > > > ... > > > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - -- ( ) I_D Allan If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
