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On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 4:27 AM, ornamentalmind
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Neil mentioned insurance... something that is as close to the
> protection racket as possible.
>
> Here in the States, we have many examples but one who stands out is
> William McGuire. His stock option of over a billion dollars (yes,
> billion with a 'b'), shows what happens when people who purchase
> insurance end up not getting anything for their money. That and the
> over 30% stock profits show what a sham the private sector is when it
> comes to the health racket. Many countries have laws denying any
> profit for such situations. Here, such crimes are seen as 'good'...a
> shining example of capitalism. Talk about serfdom!
>
> http://www.startribune.com/business/11093081.html
> http://www.forbes.com/static/pvp2005/LIRRI3M.html
>
> http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1848501_1848500_1848464,00.html
>
>
>
> On Sep 4, 2:11 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I'm fairy convinced on a politburo of the rich -a kind of shadow big
> > government.  I like it no more than any other big government.  I don't
> > think the threat is 'socialism' but rather serfdom.  I regard anything
> > I have to pay to retailing or excess profit as tax and anything I have
> > to pay to capital based on accumulated wealth as a toll.  I'm not
> > concerned whether the government or private sector taxes me, but my
> > control over it.  For instance, I regard anything beyond a basic
> > haircut as a tax, but can easily avoid anything other than a short
> > back and sides.
> >
> > If we lived in a commune, those of us getting home with sore backs
> > after a day of toil might well object to other members who claimed
> > their job was to sit around all day playing Monopoly.  This is much
> > how I regard the banksters - beyond the primitive stuff we need.  The
> > trillions swilling about that Orn raises represent a form of Monopoly
> > played with our currency.
> >
> > Around the West you can see that wages have ceased to rise and debt
> > increasing since around 1965 - the previous examples are in gold
> > rushes and the Depression.  China is no different in the last 20
> > years.  The figures expressed in GDP terms are clear and also show a
> > massive adjustment of wealth to the rich.  The essence of it all is a
> > move from building lives and capital that is investment in such, to
> > accumulation through speculation for a few.  Our politics is 60 years
> > behind what is going on.  The figures don't show the money going on
> > public services but into the Monopoly game we don't get to play in.
> >
> > If you look at what the bottom 50% in our economies own of what we can
> > put a money value on it's very small in comparison with the top 20%.
> > Our governments are both corrupt (most MPs or representatives are
> > economically useless) and scared - they are ploughing money to the
> > banks and changing requirements for them to hold more Teir 1 capital
> > and the rest - but must know the banks simply change their false-
> > accounting schemes in order to play their old games.  The new QE is
> > privatised and what's going on is asset sweating - they are still
> > borrowing our savings and pensions in repo deals that mean our low
> > risk investments are still going into junk and gambles.  The question
> > is where the losses are and how they have been dumped.  In the old
> > Barings case, the losses were dumped into an 888 account - but in this
> > wider crisis the losses are so massive that governments have decided
> > to inflate their way out.  This is an old trick, practised by the
> > Germans to evade reparations.
> >
> > The alternative is to go for job growth and wage inflation - the other
> > being war.  The situation is clouded by soaked up ideologies about
> > meritocracy, hard work and despising poor people as wasters.  In
> > reality we have no idea of how little work we need to do, or how bent
> > the banksters are.  The banksters have created their own free table
> > (Plato's communism), but socialism isn't needed to end this -
> > transparency is.
> >
> > The USD is probably finished as a reserve currency - this should scare
> > all Americans and Europeans who have lived under the US military
> > umbrella - much as many of us resent what this has done.  I
> > investigated a few 'insurance rings' as a cop - discovering many
> > dodges happening through players in different organisations that
> > allowed cuts to be taken from insurance payouts - the banksters do
> > something similar.  At root it's about taking money to 'insure'
> > investments knowing there is no insurance because any insurer would go
> > bust if required to pay up.  In the processes they get to buy real
> > assets with dud 'secuitised' money.  They have been betting with our
> > futures.
> >
> > We need rid of them without ending up with big government.
> >
> > On Sep 4, 8:17 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Timmy "Turbo Tax" Geithner has much to answer for. Ruining this
> country's
> > > economy seems to be at the top of his list. I wonder if the msm will
> pick up
> > > on any of this and stick with it until incompetent and/or conniving
> > > opportunists can be removed from their appointed positions of great
> power.
> > > How long will it take?
> >
> > >http://professional.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405311190346110457646007.
> ..
> >
> > > dj
> >
> > > PS: Interesting in that your link fails to mention the man(Bernie
> Sanders)
> > > with the provocative quote about socialism for the rich is actually a
> card
> > > carrying socialist himself. One of the few actually willing to admit
> it.
> > > Also, strangely, no mention of the architect behind the 'secret'
> bailouts.
> > > Mr. Timmy 'Turbo Tax' Geithner. A mystery wrapped in an enigma and
> slathered
> > > with stinky Maroilles.
> >
> > > On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 1:00 AM, ornamentalmind
> > > <[email protected]>wrote:
> >
> > > > For those who know the private corporate status of the Fed., the
> > > > following won’t be much of a shock. For the rest, it may be.
> >
> > > > First Federal Reserve Audit Reveals Trillions in Secret Bailouts
> >
> > > > The first-ever audit of the U.S. Federal Reserve has revealed 16
> > > > trillion dollars in secret bank bailouts and has raised more
> questions
> > > > about the quasi-private agency’s opaque operations.
> >
> > > > "This is a clear case of socialism for the rich and rugged,
> you’re-on-
> > > > your-own individualism for everyone else," …read the rest at:
> > > >http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/08/28-3
>

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