The problem has been when religion and government mix- it debases both institutions.
Erdoman-Turkey_ is now set about his pre-caliphate II trip around North Africa hoping to squeeze out Israel as the Turks once massacred the Armenian Christians and continue with the Kurds. There is no such animal as an islamic democracy- it's impossible. On Sep 10, 3:15 am, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > The trinity Rigsy is the creation of saul (Paul) because the miracles that > were occurring around the true apostles were not occurring around him,, the > miracle that was recorded about God healing him from a poisonous snake bite > ,, just did not happen simple because there are no poisonous snakes on > Malta.. How can you base ones beliefs on the teachings of a person that uses > a lie to give them value? > Allan > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 11:29 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > True. Vam is overlooking the Trinity (3 Gods for the price of One!) > > which alienated the Jews. > > > On Sep 9, 9:33 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Yet, are those traditions in any way strictly monotheistic? Most that > > > I am aware of do not make such a claim; although as you say some do. > > > > When it comes to the presentation of an argument, the terms used are > > > often important as Vam knows. Making a claim for all cases in such a > > > case is asking for rebuttal. Of course, that may have been his intent! > > > > On Sep 9, 4:16 am, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I would disagree in that there are mystical traditions to many eastern > > > > and western religions that do none of those three. > > > > > On Sep 9, 6:34 am, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Monotheistic Religions, as they are, do three things : > > > > > 1 Assure salvation, the power for which is entirely with another > > > > > 2 Demand Belief in a defined presentation of thought and ideology > > > > > 3 Convert others to their fold through material lure, physical and > > > > > mental fear and reward. > > > > > > Atheistic disciplines, pantheistic and polytheistic ways of living do > > > > > none of these. > > > > > > They are therefore not religions as the people in the West and Middle > > > > > East believe in and understand !- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > ( > ) > |_D Allan > > May the flees of 1000 camels infect the crotch of who ever has ever ruined > your day and may their arms be to short to scratch. Then you can have a good > day.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
