whoops, spell check strikes again. That should read censorship and prejudice.
On Sep 17, 1:42 pm, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > I am suggesting that Allan was banned much too soon while others have > been allowed much more rein and offered much worse offense before > being banned. How about the is reinstated with warning? Respect > among us is important. It seems to come and go with the membership. > Most folks can rein it in when asked. I suspect Alan is among them, > having conversed with him for many years in this group. Censorship > and predicable can kill a group, for certain. Somewhere there is a > balance. I suppose that is why they call it moderation. > > On Sep 16, 12:40 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Molly, are you suggesting no moderation? > > > On Sep 16, 4:03 am, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I agree. Please reinstate Allan. The conversation has been much > > > worse with members who were left to their own exit and not moderated. > > > We were just starting to come back together as a group. Let this be a > > > cohesive factor in that, and bring Allan back. Then, let respect > > > among colleagues rule the day. > > > > On Sep 16, 5:11 am, Francis Hunt <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I find the action of banning Allan completely out of proportion to the > > > > "offence," if such it was, which he "committed". In the heat of a debate > > > > anyone can sometimes go a little too far. > > > > > The action of banning is like using a sledgehammer to try to kill a > > > > gnat. > > > > > On 16 September 2011 00:43, ornamentalmind > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > gabby, thanks for the response. That is what I had guessed about you > > > > > and Vam but wanted to be sure since you brought it up. > > > > > > Allan is banned from Minds Eye. > > > > > > On Sep 15, 1:57 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > No, Orn, not feeling attacked by Vam but being attacked by Vam. But > > > > > > I am > > > > > > able to stand my man here, thank you. > > > > > > > What is Allan's current posting status, is what we'd like to know. > > > > > > Is he > > > > > > being banned, set on moderation or have only some of his posts been > > > > > deleted? > > > > > > Thank you for providing us with factual information to help us > > > > > > increase > > > > > the > > > > > > level objectivity. > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:31 PM, ornamentalmind < > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Moderation is and always has been subjective. It also is not > > > > > > > democratic no matter what pretense or trappings are added to it. > > > > > > > > gabby, if you feel attacked by vam and want action, let me know > > > > > > > specifically and I'll address it. I use judgement when it comes to > > > > > > > individual cases. > > > > > > > > Vam, yes it is serious and I've never taken the > > > > > > > task/responsibility > > > > > > > lightly. > > > > > > > > Also Vam, as egalitarian as your suggested method appears to be > > > > > > > we are > > > > > > > not about trials here. > > > > > > > > On Sep 15, 9:41 am, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I believe banning is a serious matter. > > > > > > > > > I really have not kept track of what Allan has said or done. In > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > event, I feel there should be a separate thread titled : Why > > > > > so-and-so > > > > > > > > deserves to be banned, by the Group rules ! > > > > > > > > > The person can then be clearly charged, allowed to respond, and > > > > > > > > a > > > > > call > > > > > > > > taken by the Moderator in full public view. Shouldn't be > > > > > > > > difficult. > > > > > > > > After all you wouldn't be doing it every month. > > > > > > > > > On Sep 15, 8:24 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Vam, I deleted the offending posts. Allan himself knew he had > > > > > > > > > gone > > > > > > > > > over the line and said so in one of his remaining posts. He > > > > > followed > > > > > > > > > that one with more unprovoked direct attacks (self > > > > > admitted/defined) > > > > > > > > > upon me. He knew what he was doing and what the result would > > > > > > > > > be. > > > > > > > > > > Evolution, freedom, acceptance and toleration include self > > > > > > > > > responsibility. > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 14, 10:33 pm, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > If true, as Allan himself informs me, the act seems > > > > > disproportionate, > > > > > > > > > > a result of disbalanced mental process, and plain gross, as > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > absolute unfit for a Group comprising of such evolved > > > > > > > > > > members who > > > > > > > > > > believe in freedom, acceptance and toleration. > > > > > > > > > > > I sure would like to hear the Moderator speak on this > > > > > > > > > > matter.- > > > > > Hide > > > > > > > quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > -- > > > > Francis Hunt > > > > > *francishunt.blogspot.com*
