All I get is a picture of an eyeball when I click on your link there. I don't know where the new google group's view is.
On Oct 1, 4:45 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > It's all been there in new google groups' view. Have a look, this is what it > looks like: > > <https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-TnwAAMF--aU/Tgbi5Mt75MI/AAAAAAAAAj...> > > *MINDS EYE* > A Forum to *RATIONALLY* express your ideas on: Religion, Philosophy, > Literature, the Fine Arts, etc. > > *0% tolerance for SPAM.* We remove all SPAM, report the abuse to Google, > and ban the member for life. > > For new members, please read these guidelines before you post. For existing > members, we'd appreciate it if you'd take a few minutes to > review the updates. > > Thanks and happy posting, > > If you are replying via email, please don't change the subject in the > subject line, and if your replying via email make sure that it doesn't have > "re:" before the subject line either. > > Also, if using the web interface, don't change the subject line. If you > have something you want to talk about that is beyond the scope of the > current discussion then just start a new thread. > > Thank you! > > *Mind's Eye Posting Guidelines* > > *1. Introduction* > > The moderators have always bent over backwards to avoid banning anyone from > Mind's Eye. This fact remains unchanged for anyone who has proven themselves > capable of meaningful contribution to the group. However, as the group has > grown, so has its appeal to increasingly anti-social individuals who enjoy > "trolling" forums. Trolling, says Wikipedia, is "making deliberately > inflammatory remarks in order to provoke a vehement response from > others" [1<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29>]. > It's a very popular pastime on the Internet, and one that can ruin online > communities like ours. > > Mind's Eye -- by virtue of its increasing activity and diversity -- has > become a very tempting target for trolls. It seems that the days of only > needing to ban one person every couple of years are now regrettably behind > us. We are victims of our own success, and thus the moderators have decided > to revisit, tighten up, and clarify, what is acceptable/unacceptable in this > group. Although this guide is mostly for the benefit of new members, we hope > our existing members will find this framework clarifies certain principles > and conventions which they already subscribed to. > > *2. New Member Moderation* > > All new members of Mind's Eye are initially moderated. This means that a new > member's posts will not appear immediately, rather they will be held in a > queue until an administrator has checked them over and released them to the > group. The group's moderators are spread across several time zones and work > schedules, thus this process generally happens within a few hours. Sometimes > it's much quicker. However, your patience is appreciated if it is the > weekend or a public holiday. After a few posts we will take new members off > of moderation, thus allowing their messages to appear -- the Internet and > Google willing -- immediately. > > We take a strong line on posts from new members which contain links. Farming > hits for your website or blog from Mind's Eye is very likely to get you > banned. After your moderation has been removed and you have proven yourself > capable of meaningful contribution, we would tend to be more relaxed about > you linking back to your website, assuming it is relevant and not just > blatant hit farming. > > This moderation policy has stopped Mind's Eye sinking under the weight of > spam, which has ruined many other groups. > > *3. Etiquette & Principles* > > 1. If you are looking to "flame" people or generally be obnoxious, > please find yourself a different outlet. Mind's Eye is a group intended for > rational discussions. Aggressive/bullying posts are unwelcome. If you've had > a bad day, go and take your stress out elsewhere. Remember, a hasty retort > thrown together in anger will be visible to the world long after those > feelings have subsided. Moderators are unable to delete your posts on the > website or suck them magically out of the inboxes of members who participate > via email. > > 2. Attacks upon immutable human characteristics (race, disability, > sexual orientation, et al) are totally unacceptable. > > 3. Debates about a person's deeply held values, beliefs, or way of > life, should be tempered with a high level of respect and civility. These > debates have been some of our most interesting over the years, and they > work, or not, based upon the level of mutual respect and honesty extended by > each side. If your motive is to ridicule members, or spread bad feeling, > please do not bother to post. > > 4. We've tackled a fair few sacred cows over the years and these are > always interesting discussions. However, by their nature, these debates are > very likely to stir up emotions. Please accept that the world is full of > people with radically different opinions to yours which they hold equally as > strongly. Mind's Eye is a forum for you to interact with such people and > learn more about them. It is not a forum for you to attack them, even if > they are "pro abortion baby killers", "neo-con nutjobs", "pinko liberals", > "sinners", or even British. All of the above miscreants are welcome. > > 5. Posting irrelevant asides, snide comments, or generally trying to > derail a discussion, is not in the spirit of the group. If you have nothing > to contribute to a discussion, move on, start a new thread, or just be happy > reading what other people have posted. > > 6. Avoid simple "you are wrong" statements; if you have a point to > make, back it up. Please also see the section labelled "Quoting/Citations" > for specific information on how you should cite your sources. > > 7. Avoid swearing/cussing, unless it is absolutely pertinent to the > discussion at hand. Sometimes it happens naturally in the flow of a sentence > -- and I'm guilty of it -- but there are many far more creative ways to > express yourself. > > 8. Do not preach or proselytize: we are here to discuss ideas, not be > recruited to your particular religion no matter how great you think it is or > how much peril you believe our eternal souls to be in. > > 9. Do not patronise our members. The membership of Mind's Eye is > fantastically diverse in terms of member's ages, levels of education, forms > of spirituality, life experience, and professional vocations. Even if you > think you know the answer to life, the universe, and everything, you'll be > stirring all kinds of bad feeling if your tone is smug or condescending. > Assuming the role of "teacher" is often unpopular. > > 10. *Ad hominen* should be avoided and, in the most serious > circumstances, could see you moderated or banned. Wikipedia defines *ad > hominem* as "replying to an argument or factual claim by attacking or > appealing to a characteristic or belief of the person making the argument or > claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing > evidence against the claim. [3 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem>]" > > *4. Quoting / Citations* > > 1. Copy/pasting reams of text from a website, without a citation, gives > the impression that you are claiming the work as your own. Given that this > is probably not the case, please attribute the quote to its author or > source. > > 2. When quoting from a website, do not copy/paste the entire article. > Try and limit your citation to a paragraph or two, and, of course, please > provide the link. > > 3. If you wish to reproduce content from Mind's Eye elsewhere, we ask > you to seek permission of the author(s). > > *5. Crossposting/multiposting* > > Crossposting is "the act of posting the same message to multiple forums, > mailing lists, or newsgroups" [2 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting>]. > It is sometimes known as multiposting. Mind's Eye is a discussion forum and > we encourage you to take part, not treat the group as a one-way audience for > your message (no matter how important you believe it to be). We consider > crossposting to be the equivalent to spamming, thus it could see you banned. > Depending on previous form, the moderators may take a more lenient stand > with existing members; however, be clear, repeated crossposting may see you > moderated or banned. > > *6. Bannings*** > > All decisions regarding disciplinary actions up to and including banishment > from the group are discussed thoroughly among the moderators before any > decision is made. None of the moderators take it upon themselves to > discipline a member of the group. Disciplinary actions include, but are not > limited to: warnings, return to moderated status, banishment from the group, > and *ETERNAL DAMNATION*. Except for exceptional circumstances -- such as > emergencies where other moderators are out of contact -- all bannings and > moderations are voted on. > > *7. The Moderators* > > Your moderators are Chris, ornamentalmind, and Molly. None of us share the > same religious or political views, thus we hope that there is no bias in > moderation. > > If you need to contact the moderators "off-list", you should click the "Send > email to the owner" link on the page below: > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 8:31 PM, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > I just thought that SOME guidelines should be posted. No one yet has > > been able or willing to tell me how to make them a top post with the > > little push pin. They should be revised, I am sure. But before that, > > at least posted. > > > On Oct 1, 10:56 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > No, that I removed myself from the Mods group, and thus, the listing > > should > > > be updated. :) > > > > On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hell, Chris, such brevity... ! > > > > Which is correct - my impression being a figment or as Molly's > > > > stated ? > > > > > On Oct 1, 7:40 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > That's correct, Vam. > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > " Your moderators are Chris, ornamentalmind, and Molly." > > > > > > > Posts elsewhere gave me the impression that Neil has joined the > > ranks > > > > > > and Chris has refused to be redrawn > > ... > > read more »
