I was hearing "Mein Zei", which a quick search of revealed this:

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Was ist das, Gabs?

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 5:11 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:

> I am hearing "Minds Eye", or maybe not.
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> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 5:29 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> Loads of stugg comes up on googling images related to the term 'Mind's
>> Eye' - not surprisingly a lot of the stuff has an eye in it.  I tend
>> to run the 'eye' bit out in my pondering on what a mind's eye might
>> be.  Some former science colleagues better at maths than me used to
>> try and describe 'visualisation' - how they could manipulate images of
>> geometry involving complex shapes and transformations.  I could never
>> do this and even have trouble working out what happens to, say, door
>> hinges if you turn the door upside down and round-a-bout.  I could
>> often 'guess' how a complex system of transformations would end up,
>> but could never 'see the process' as some claimed.  This was something
>> of a handicap in some stochastic work with molecule shape.
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>> I'm watching an old Oliver film and have no sympathy with Oliver - all
>> with the other kids and the brilliantly played evil roles.  I often
>> have a lot of difficulty 'seeing' what others are being suckered by in
>> propaganda directly and instead a form of critique of the stuff
>> arises.  I really dislike, say, Huckleberry Finn being played by the
>> rich director's all too clean kid.  I have a cinematic daydreaming
>> imagination, but no imaging comes from words when someone says 'table'
>> - my sister 'sees' gargoyles if you say the word.
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>> I'm struck there is no 'eye' in mind's eye even though I might as well
>> be in a cinema when daydreaming.  Though one might ask if what I see
>> 'in cinema' relies on past sight - though again I'm not usually
>> 'seeing' recalled events.  I find the artist's attempts at 'mind's
>> eye' disappointing.
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>> I'm unsure how I notice so strongly that "economics" (a subject I
>> teach with no enthusiasm) is just a 'smell of words' around and
>> obvious failure in human cooperation always leading to a very small
>> number amassing riches.  It's like a gas keeping he truth-seeker at
>> bay.  We are as far from the double-helix in this as the tribe that
>> denies paternity through sex, investing it instead in ghosts with the
>> 'father role' played by maternal uncles.
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>> It's been my view for many years that argument fails except in very
>> special circumstances.  The Greeks knew this because equally powerful
>> argument could be adduced for many different views.  They invented a
>> kind of "mind's eye" (see Pyhrronism) in which competing arguments
>> could be assessed.  This is rather too expert for me.  I suspect that
>> what we can't do is strip argument of its propaganda, and suspect
>> again this is a matter of fear of violence in challenging 'deeply'
>> held views - and further that these views are ill-considered dross.
>> One can feel another danger here of the zealot and know-all.  In my
>> mind's eye argument comes with smells, emotions, incredulity,
>> doubt,probability ... and the coldest, most lying voice of all is the
>> disinfected smell of the objective voice.
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