Welcome AJ have not had any cyber attacks here,, see that you have gmail they are good about dealing with them
Welcome to the group I am sure you will make many friends or at least one or two Allan On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:57 PM, AJ Fogle <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi thanks for responding. I agree with the idea that to be certain of > any religious certainty is impossible at least in our current place > and time in the cosmos. However there are certain ideas or even > fellings within self that have some basis for knowing. Though this too > could simply be a figment of a powerful mind too. That is why I wanted > to investigate what we as a people have discovered as fact through the > sciences of today. These can help to place ones feet upon more of a > responsible approach in a journey through lifes biggest questions. > > God notions are much too vague or immense of subject matter for me and > I simply want to understand the smaller steps in the journey. > Personally, I don't really like "religion" as a practice or way of > life. I think it sells the human potential very short, not to mention > makes us a part of some rather dark and barbarious history. Control > and rules for conduct are important to a civilized world, but applying > that to belief and potential in the ways of self or spirit is counter > intuative. IMHO > > > > On Sep 30, 6:06 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi AJ and welcome. I don't do professional philosophy but the stuff > > is sometimes useful in my work. There's a lot of the philosophy of > > religion about and no denial of god as far as I'm aware - it's more a > > case that belief or otherwise in certainty on the topic is a > > rationalist fantasy. As a scientist I don't find god notions very > > useful and think much of the myths around them are damaging. This > > still leaves me pondering what the universe and our part in it is > > about. > > The god particle is a metaphor for the quest for more and more effort > > in particle physics - I think the name arises from Leon Leyderman > > Last time I heard it was supposedly the Higgs' boson - a field that > > gives mass. > > > > Your post will have been delayed by moderation - something we use to > > keep spam and a few other things out. Please fell free to > > contribute. I'll go back and press the right key so your posts will > > come directly to the group. > > Neil > > > > On Oct 1, 12:45 am, AJ Fogle <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello all. I am new to the group and am interested in talking about > > > these deeper topics with anyone who will allow it. I have so many > > > questions that need affirmation as well. One for example I thought of > > > from reading the God particle post. In it someone posted that we can > > > not measure it, because we are actually in it. I do not disagree, but > > > was wondering if there is any evidence to support the idea that space > > > is actually intelligent or perhaps more in line with intelligent > > > energy fields both receptive and productive? I guess what I am most > > > in need of would be the current science theory in many areas of > > > study. I would very much enjoy these types of study and > > > conversation. > > > > > Secondly, does anyone want to consider the fractal in the pondering of > > > God and spirit? I was under the impression that most philosophers > > > exclude the idea of there being a God or spirit, although this is not > > > an educated impression and perhaps it is wrong entirely. I put this > > > question out there in order to see if there are enough deep thinkers. > > > with the extra time available, to address some of these issues with > > > me. Anyone? > > > > > Another post here mentioned something about the "heating condition of > > > the universe" and well quite frankly, I must hear more on this topic > > > as well. I have had my own ideas on that subject and I have a feeling > > > the information will simply validate those ideas. However, I do not > > > know why this heating is happening, do you? > > > > > Ok, I do not want to annoy any of you so I will stop with these vague, > > > but meaningful, to me, questions for you all. With a sincere hope to > > > have someone, or many, open in conversation to me. I am honest and > > > sincere and turned on by intelligence .. I hope that isn't offensive > > > to any of you either. I have no problems with being told I am wrong > > > and will gladly consider the evidence that proves the statement. > > > Personally, I find the thought of walking around believing in > > > something that is based in error, very upsetting and welcome fact and > > > truth, with open arms. Hopefully this will put you at ease and somehow > > > give you some insight into me as well. > > > > > Finally... Consider this.....The purpose of life, the reason we are > > > here ... the meaning of it all... is simply to BECOME LOVE. Think > > > about it and let me know what you think. I am very interested in > > > hearing what you have to say. Thanks for your time. Be blessed.- Hide > quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > -- ( ) |_D Allan Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
