While I thought it was high time for Pakistan to have good news of any sort! :-)//Re ignorance and superstition- I would put controls on the list of constraints of the individual- from family/tribe, religion, education, government, climate (!) personal strengths and weaknesses, etc. Much of life is luck and timing- then making some sense of it.
On Jan 28, 5:52 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > No headache here rigsy. England's batsmen have a few against Pakistan > spinners though. The cycle I see us as in is broadly one of a > potential escape from ignorance and superstition and the fear of > this. We are held in this almost as England's batters are in the > spell of Pakistan spin. > > On Jan 28, 5:10 am, James Lynch <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Though I know what you are saying and your thoughts are very familiar > > they are often out of my grasp. I decided to write my thoughts or I'd > > be stuck saying nothing when I have too many thoughts and result in no > > words, like staring into the dark recesses of the mind will coax some > > convergence of arcane geometries. I find that the rhythm of learning > > is stochastic but over time undulations emerge. Echolocation without > > the echo is how my sight seems to work. It seems to be a tough spot > > kinda in between or outside that I'm in. You are right about seeing > > things for yourself, holding whatever truth, there is a profound > > difference in what we assume things to mean. I mean that simply, as > > things have become evident to me over time from many perspectives. I > > am grateful to understand most of what you've said, even though a > > little unsure of what Zero and Bliss Infinite mean. > > > In humor, I think if there are multiple lives this one's a lesson in > > humility. In my terms I would call your ideas on Home and Vanity > > 'living truth' of great value. We 'begin again'? > > > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > "Is this not an important part of the dynamic multidimensional mind > > > Vam, can you find nothing of value with meeting this view at least as > > > a challenge?" > > > > James, starting with God is a bad idea. Perhaps, ending up at it is > > > what needs to happen. Dawkins was in Jaipur here and I found his view > > > a lot more balanced, less bigoted and militant. > > > > And Neil is right : it must deal with morality. Where his discourse > > > runs dry is when he is quoting other people ! That is also my > > > compelling logic against intellectual property rights. What damned > > > "rights" on knowledge of any kind ? Or, why must we have to give > > > references, when all we wish to say is ours, with us ? If it's not > > > ours, for us to say, we should STFU ! > > > > The formal aspect of Truth or truths is onerous. There are libraries > > > out there where it goes dry. It is the informal one that I wish to put > > > across : it is mine... and for that reason should be everyone's, of > > > everything. And that ( informal aspect ) is... HOME. The search for > > > that place which is truly ours, where we can rest without fear, free > > > and fulfilled, which nothing in the whole universe can take away from > > > us. Truth is our Home. > > > > This is no parable I've begun. People are spent for and on a " home " > > > for themselves. They build, buy, rent one for the body... house or > > > apartment, car or craft. But then the worst a-holes amongst us come to > > > believe that home they are so invested on is also the " home " to > > > their emotion, to their thought, their identity, and their happiness > > > too ! Well, it is and it definitely isn't. > > > > The better ( a-hols ) take on a wife, friend, progeny or pet, > > > community or cause, to engage their emotion-thought-identity where, > > > with whom or which, one then feels at home. Of that our thought is > > > preoccupied... that same ' faculty ' that had been used to focus on > > > money to buy the home, on the value of food and worth of delicacies, > > > on the relevance of what is beneficial and serves our purposes and > > > what does not. > > > > That pitch of ' acquisition,' value, worth, relevance... is also there > > > in our thought and eye, as in it pre-exists and is consciously or > > > subconsciously applied, for the home-objects of our emotion as well. > > > For a lifetime, we carry that pitch to manage, manipulate, decide and > > > deal with what is outside us to acquire the material home-object in > > > our aim ... a domain that, for all practical purposes, encompasses > > > everything. For everything, external and internal, is outside the > > > agency, the ego-person, we are through the pursuit after our aim. > > > > What is concurrent within, inside of us - the "ego-person," is a build > > > up and an intensification of VANITY... which expresses as : " I > > > possess;" " I win;" " I will acquire;" " I am successful." It is all a > > > matter of process that is normal to our drive and inevitable to our > > > search. But, as surely as sure can be, it is Vanity that also blocks > > > our evolution and progression into the true Home to our emotion - > > > which is Love, to our thought - which is Silence, to our identity - > > > which is Zero, and to our spirit - which is Bliss Infinite. Because it > > > limits us to what we have, even as it automatically makes us pore over > > > all that we does not have; and, it is limiting because while with it > > > we can never give up that " pitch " we have internalised along the > > > journey and can hence never view and see things with Love and Silence, > > > and be Zero with Bliss Infinite. > > > > These are the real aspects and issues to spirituality : Home and > > > Vanity. It is these that I find more pertinent than God or whatever. > > > It is these that will make us be better and excel, that will address > > > the monstrous twists with which people reduce the best of systems and > > > opportunities to gutter, that will redress the moral deficit in our > > > public and personal lives.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
