Strange I have in many occasions but they are suppressed by existing dogmatic beliefs, and those who do not want to see. Allan
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Menfranco Laws <[email protected]> wrote: > You may be right, since we have not seen any of God's activities in > the last two thousand earth years > > On Mar 8, 8:38 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > I think God moved to another galaxy... > > > > On Mar 7, 5:08 pm, Menfranco Laws <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Okay I agree creation is a mistake, at least the way that is has been > > > written in the Bible, but there must be a sort of creation, even if > > > life started all by itself. I believe that man needs to have a soul > > > because it helps us to live decently and if it turns into nothingness > > > when we die, so be it. It seems to me that we are moving closer to > > > Confucius ways of living, where God and religions don't seem to be > > > important, but souls still exist somehow. > > > Now about God being unconscious, is this god unconsciousness going to > > > last forever, or will God eventually become conscious one day and > > > change things according to his will? Does anyone have any ideas? > > > > > On Mar 6, 11:00 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > The issue Menfranco, as always is we end up dealing with little other > > > > than fiction generated by people, such as souls and thus possibly are > > > > off on a wild goose chase. > > > > Yet notions like soul have impinged more on most of human > > > > consciousness than such stuff as dark matter that science now seems > to > > > > be "photographing". The notion of the souls returning to god and > > > > whether this return is unconscious or carries some form of experience > > > > information with it rings with notions in physics as to whether the > > > > universe does this at its end - is the information experience of the > > > > universe carried through "the big shrink". The maths suggests only > > > > quantum fluctuations may survive. > > > > > > Gnostics believe creation is a mistake and the idea is to live > > > > decently and return to nothingness. I wonder what we can divine in > > > > speculation rather than find with certainty. > > > > > > On Mar 5, 10:33 pm, Menfranco Laws <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi RP and everybody else; From what I have read in this thread, one > > > > > can call God Mother Nature, since Mother Nature is unconscious, or > > > > > Mother Nature plus cosmic energy of the universe, this concept > agrees > > > > > with my own beliefs, but I wonder what happens to the dead people > > > > > souls when they die and return to God, do they become completely > > > > > unconscious or do they take with them a sort of consciousness that > > > > > mixes up with the cosmic energies of the universe, and therefore > God > > > > > becomes conscious but unwilling to take part and change the natural > > > > > laws? > > > > > > > On Mar 4, 9:59 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Life had to come from somewhere , why not from an unconscious > Nature > > > > > > which would explain the presence of Laws behind every action and > > > > > > inaction. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 2:36 AM, archytas <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > That doesn't help RP. Why this rather than a host of > alternatives? > > > > > > > > > On Mar 4, 4:28 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> God is not made of fire , air , earth , water , ether and > consciousness , > > > > > > >> rather all these emanate from Him. God is unconscious and > without > > > > > > >> attributes. > > > > > > > > >> On Sunday, January 29, 2012 8:51:49 PM UTC+5:30, RP Singh > wrote: > > > > > > > > >> > God , Nature , Truth , Reality is unconscious and the > Creation which > > > > > > >> > emanates from it has no choice. You may think that you have > choice , but > > > > > > >> > whatever you think , feel and do is as certain as the > trajectory of the > > > > > > >> > celestial bodies. The entire universe , you included, is > bound by laws and > > > > > > >> > everyone is a slave to" Laws", that is , "The Will of God". > > > > > > >> On Sunday, January 29, 2012 8:51:49 PM UTC+5:30, RP Singh > wrote: > > > > > > > > >> > God , Nature , Truth , Reality is unconscious and the > Creation which > > > > > > >> > emanates from it has no choice. You may think that you have > choice , but > > > > > > >> > whatever you think , feel and do is as certain as the > trajectory of the > > > > > > >> > celestial bodies. The entire universe , you included, is > bound by laws and > > > > > > >> > everyone is a slave to" Laws", that is , "The Will of > God".- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > -- ( ) |_D Allan Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
