I think the answer lies in technology - which is about as useful as
the old codger on Gardeners' Question Time who opined 'Oi think the
answer lies in the soil' on each and every question.  I have a long
list.  The first is this:

1.  Replace media reporting of economics with spreadsheet graphics
developed across the EU's universities under a 6 month time-limited
grant.  We have to shift public debate to facts and how they are inter-
connected.  One only needs approximations, but we do need to stop the
vapid right-left (but it's all the same really) stuff.  I can't find
anyone 'down the pub' who knows even who gets what, how much there is
and so on.



On 18 Sep, 18:25, Francis Hunt <[email protected]> wrote:
> Great post, Neil. I'm with you all the way!
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> The only problem I have is ... how do we get from here to there? Preferably
> without breaking everything in the process ...
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> On 18 September 2012 19:08, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > Suppose that a company earns $1 million dollars of profit in a year.
> > About $400,000 must be paid in income tax. A corporate raider will buy
> > the company’s stockholders (equity owners), for $10 million in junk
> > bonds. The entire $1 million dollars of profit will now be paid to the
> > banker or the bondholder in the form of interest. The company won’t
> > report a profit, so there is no tax payment. The financial manager
> > will hope to increase the company’s price (to re-sell it on the stock
> > exchange) by cutting costs or selling off its pieces to make a capital
> > gain. This is how Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s Bain
> > Capital made money. It is “balance sheet” engineering, not aimed at
> > raising production or living standards.
> > Read more at
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> >http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/09/michael-hudson-on-how-finance-...
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> > I worked for an asset-stripper in the 80s.  The rationalisation back
> > then was that what we did was good for the economy because our
> > activities sharpened-up competitive practices and cleaned-up weak
> > companies with dud management.  We knew this argument was a dud back
> > then.  The essential way we worked was to use private detectives and
> > to bribe insiders to learn about likely targets.  We did spend time
> > looking a company accounts and what Moody's records might have to
> > say.  Key issues were to identify large cash drains to LOMBARDS (loads-
> > a-money but are right dicks), undervalued properties and 'dirt on
> > senior management leverage'.
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> > I'd vote for Don or rigsy for President or PM well ahead of clowns
> > like Romney, Obama, Cameron and Blair (seriously - me and Al are mad
> > enough to be fit only for foreign policy jobs).  The article the quote
> > above comes from says most of what is wrong - but I can remember the
> > time when Labour politicians in Britain sounded the same - talk was of
> > the 'Gnomes of Zurich', selective employment tax (to encourage
> > manufacturing) and investing North Sea Oil.
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> > I take the criminality of financial services as read these days.  The
> > metaphor in my head comes from the westerns in which the bad guys sold
> > whiskey and guns to the Injuns.  The financial sector villains have
> > armed China and probably armed Hitler's Germany (see 'Conjuring
> > Hitler').
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> > Germany is probably the most efficient manufacturing nation these
> > days, but the ultimate contradiction on all th urging towards
> > efficiency leads to super-manufacturing countries like Germany and
> > China (Britain and the US once) that have to sell products to
> > inefficient countries like Britain, the US, Greece, Spain and so on.
> > As a model this is an obvious non-starter.
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> > You can get some idea where manufacturing now is by looking at steel
> > production here -
> >http://www.worldsteel.org/statistics/statistics-archive/2011-steel-pr...
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> > It's pretty obvious we have the rules of competition and money wrong
> > and that political discussion about this is either ignorant or just
> > plain lying.  Backs have been broken for all kinds of pathological
> > leadership whim throughout history.  Easter Island statues,
> > Stonehenge, Pyramids and all variety of ape wars we call history.
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> > Economics lacks questions like 'how much work should rigsy have to do
> > to be able to live in peace and make blueberry pie'?  I suspect the
> > answer in the broader case of what percentage of our effort goes to
> > providing water, food, shelter, proper protection from a hostile
> > environment (earthquakes, historical global warming etc.), the
> > advancement of science and technology and freedom from bandits,
> > religious and otherwise is less than a quarter of what we generally
> > think it is.
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> > The issue is about producing a leisure society for all that works and
> > can make work happen given slacking potential and free-riding.  I am
> > totally demotivated at the thought of both earning more per hour than
> > the next ten people around me in the pub and of contributing anything
> > to rich donkeys like Romney or some soccer star (which happens without
> > doing anything as direct as watching a soccer match).  I also prefer
> > to holiday where the lager louts don't, where the attraction is a
> > brilliant German bakery with a couple of tables for coffee and
> > excellent cakes and a Bavarian lady who won't serve me more than two
> > and shares a chateaubriand  with me in the evening. Sorry Don, it's
> > rigsy for President - I'm sure you follow the argument!
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> Francis Hunthttp://francishunt.blogspot.de/

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