De rien. Always there to entertain you.

2014/1/4 Allan H <[email protected]>

> What filters do you suggest that I use..  I am not a fan of creative
> accounting..  some proven ideas are worth hanging onto ,,,  in reality my
> morality is not very flexible nor creative and I have know that for years,
> I do listen to what people have to say and you can try and convince me of
> almost anything ,,  now changing my moral view is a extremely long slow and
> laborious process..  My spiritual life raft has evolved over many years and
> It takes a lot to convince me something is better.
> I agree there are a lot of views on morality and discussion can lead  to
> better understanding, I am a great believer in a firm foundation or the how
> and why,  yes that tends to make things ridged and I consider my sou to be
> of great value to me if no one else. If my soul is your ghost at least I
> hope it provides a clear point of reference.
>
>
>
> Matrix -- Soul rules the body
>  (           --  Do No Harm
>    )
> [_D  Allan H
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gabbydott <[email protected]>
> To: minds-eye <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 1:14 PM
> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye The evolution of banks
>
> Okay, we really have all understood why you dislike the Bitcoin people.
> And now you want to turn your failure of making a profit without risking
> something into a moral dilemma of general concern. Hm. I'll up the ante and
> say maybe it was Andrew's intention to see how much of your morals shape
> the future of what we call evolution. And as long as all we see is the
> desire to control based on proven mechanisms, we see why you cling to the
> belief of your soul being tested. The evolution of double twisted double
> moral standard in dialectic entanglement. Your win is my loss. Your soul is
> my ghost, so to speak. - Have you ever tried to view Andrew through
> different filters, Allan?
>
>
>
> 2014/1/4 Allan H <[email protected]>
>
>> Banking is already being centralized. Here in Holland there a banking
>> product called iDeal ..  fascinating product  and example I have a paid up
>> mastercard that I use for internet transactions..  Allows me to have a
>> little money when I need it for some program related to android system..
>> small amounts.. to put money on my credit card  i go to the credit card web
>> site  click upload money,  because I have used iDeal in the past it takes
>> me there I enter the amount I want to transfer and then my banks name
>> results are that I am provided a series of numbers (algorythem generated) I
>> put my bank card in my e-identifier enter may pass word so the machine
>> knows it is me and not some their that stole my card.   I enter the number
>> sequence I was given ,, the e-identifier generates a different set of
>> numbers that I enter at the website ,, if I entered the correct number (to
>> error is human) moments late I am told thank you the transaction is
>> complete.
>> At that point I look at my card balance and the funds are totally
>> available for use. This is  process takes less than three minutes total..
>> the company issuing the credit card is in England.. As I look at it the
>> banking situation the banks at east here in Europe are all linked via
>> computer and an interbank net. Actually the same is true in the US also..
>> Effectively we already have centralized banking, this banking system is
>> regulated by different governments that over see the banks..  by mutual
>> agreement funds are transferred between each other.
>> If we look at bitcoin..  when I tried to create a wallet,, I was denied
>> access I did not have enough of whatever. It was also tied to the US
>> Dollar.  meaning what ever the US Dollar was valued at on the world market
>> that was to be the value of the bitcoin.. for me translated I could create
>> a silver chain for around $100.oo or 100 bitcoin .  I would cover my cost
>> and make a small profit. at the time there was no way to retrieve it US
>> dollars, but that did not matter,, as other merchants came on line I could
>> spend my bitcoin currency.  Potentially it would have been fun as I was not
>> depended on the money to live,  I can afford to replace my silver and
>> postage out of pocket  and see how it developed.
>>
>> What has evolved with bitcoin is an electronic currency that is out of
>> control and tied to nothing of value and backed by nothing except people
>> saying this is what it is worth..(there are cost involved in electronic
>> banking  and someone will have to be paying the freight,) Government
>> including large ones have banned transactions of bitcoin on all levels. The
>> basic idea is good,,,  a bitcoin by it design is still only worth one
>> dollar  not what someone with more cash than brains (drug cartels) want you
>> to believe it is worth.
>>
>> International banking is here to stay..  the real question is how do we
>> control the morality of those running the banks?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Matrix -- Soul rules the body
>>  (           --  Do No Harm
>>    )
>> [_D  Allan H
>>
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