OK Molly, I will respect your opting out and not conversing with me because 
my "fluid" position is too challenging for your intellect. 
Do any of you other "thinkers" feel the same way as Molly?. Who also finds 
having a rigid position more intelligent? 
I suppose a non-changing rigid dogmatic position of parroting what they 
teach at school is exactly what these pricy and snobby schools and their 
professors demand of their students. And perhaps that is also what the CEOs 
of the large corporations demand of their employers. Part of being free is 
being able to be fluid enough to change your mind on any position, and part 
of showing respect is to have the honesty and humility to do so.  

On Friday, August 29, 2014 9:49:48 PM UTC+2, Molly wrote:
>
> ....And I am reminded that your fluid position makes it difficult to have 
> an intelligent conversation with you, so excuse me if I opt out on this one 
> now.
>
>
>
> On Friday, August 29, 2014 3:12:22 PM UTC-4, andrew vecsey wrote:
>>
>> You have to show respect to earn it yourself. If you love your enemies, 
>> you will not have any. You have to be patient, good things take time to 
>> take root. Hope is a powerful thing. Do not give up too soon. Its better to 
>> be positive and optimistic, than to be negative and pessimistic. Perhaps 
>> you should change your line of work. 
>> On Friday, August 29, 2014 6:56:53 PM UTC+2, Molly wrote:
>>>
>>> I have to say that in my line of work, I have not seen much respect for 
>>> other peoples views.  There is quite a bit of hate in the world.  I'm not 
>>> judging it, just tired of dealing with it all week.  Glad for the holiday 
>>> weekend.  Respect cannot be legislated, and not everyone is capable. If 
>>> your model depends on it, I would find a different one.
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 29, 2014 10:59:30 AM UTC-4, andrew vecsey wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps one needs to find the golden middle- not too small and not too 
>>>> big, but just right. What would the golden middle be for our world? How 
>>>> many languages, how many countries, how many religions. What is the ideal 
>>>> size of a family? The golden middle should be found not by scientists or 
>>>> religious leaders, but by the people themselves. As long as we do not have 
>>>> "too big to fail" mentalities, and as long as we respect people`s views, 
>>>> and their desire to be free, everything should gravitate automatically to 
>>>> the golden middle point. And if things get too big, let them fail and 
>>>> break 
>>>> up.  
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, August 29, 2014 4:07:15 PM UTC+2, Molly wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I find the philosophy of focusing locally ethnocentric and short sited 
>>>>> if that is the whole of it.  Working with local community for local needs 
>>>>> is important, but so is a more global focus like world peace, climate 
>>>>> change, space program, world hunger, disease irradiation...these things 
>>>>> can't be resolved on the local level yet individuals can make a 
>>>>> difference 
>>>>> on them within their communities.  My local community does not 
>>>>> manufacture 
>>>>> cars, but there are certainly enough made in my state, so I need to 
>>>>> expand 
>>>>> my scope to get one.  I have a Land Rover for brutal Michigan winter 
>>>>> driving, so there, I have supported Archy's community too.  
>>>>>
>>>>> Folks are drawn to herd mentality for many reasons, usually an 
>>>>> underdeveloped mind. There is no particular "they" doing the brainwashing 
>>>>> but the cultural norm of the time, whether it be local, national or 
>>>>> global 
>>>>> culture.  Each of us is responsible for our own development, we choose to 
>>>>> look away from ourselves and get stuck in a stage of development, or 
>>>>> choose 
>>>>> to face what stops us and get beyond it.  An ongoing process of 
>>>>> introspection that many find too painful to pursue. Those who believe in 
>>>>> conspiracies are themselves stifled by the belief that forces beyond 
>>>>> their 
>>>>> control limit them. 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, August 29, 2014 5:48:36 AM UTC-4, andrew vecsey wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nature clearly demonstrates cycles of growth and separation.  This 
>>>>>> trend is seen from cells to mountains and from families to empires.  
>>>>>> Growth 
>>>>>> reaches a point where the size becomes too big to sustain itself and 
>>>>>> then 
>>>>>> falls apart, separating into smaller better manageable pieces.  Man 
>>>>>> tends to interfere with nature, and the trend to globalization as 
>>>>>> desired 
>>>>>> by the few greedy powerful that want to have it all is a clear 
>>>>>> indication 
>>>>>> of this.  Schools have followed this trend. They started out as 
>>>>>> facilities of learning in families and communities. They became 
>>>>>> international centers of indoctrination.  Politics also have 
>>>>>> followed this trend. They started out as communities and ended up as 
>>>>>> empires. Businesses started out as family run enterprises and ended up 
>>>>>> as 
>>>>>> global corporations.  Left to themselves, they will all get too big 
>>>>>> and fall into smaller pieces.  Thanks to the technologies available 
>>>>>> at the present, this cycle of growth and separation can be allowed to 
>>>>>> follow without the normal destructive processes that would be otherwise 
>>>>>> necessary to allow the “too big to fail” to fail. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For schools and education, this is the internet. For empires, this is 
>>>>>> the democratic process of voting instead of wars.  For the banks, 
>>>>>> this is the bitcoin protocol. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It high time for people, especially educated ones and those claiming 
>>>>>> to be “free thinkers” to embrace these possibilities.  But 
>>>>>> unfortunately too many are already brainwashed.  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is hope. The simple solution to this ever growing trend of the 
>>>>>> few rich to actually get it all is not to play along. Once people 
>>>>>> actually 
>>>>>> find that “local small” is more desirable to “global big”, then the 
>>>>>> first 
>>>>>> step is made. Then you can vote with your wallet and support local 
>>>>>> schools 
>>>>>> and businesses over the global ones. This is possible because the 
>>>>>> driving 
>>>>>> force of these greedy few rich that want it all is money.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If this seems too simplistic, it is because most “thinkers” are 
>>>>>> brainwashed to believe in “the bigger the better” way of thinking. Most 
>>>>>> “thinkers” also are brainwashed to believe that “if it is too simple, 
>>>>>> then 
>>>>>> it has not been fully thought out and needs more expertise to make it 
>>>>>> work 
>>>>>> at all”.  Unfortunately with the mass media, most of us have been 
>>>>>> brainwashed not to think at all and to be complacent with entertainment 
>>>>>> and 
>>>>>> drugs.  
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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