Some of my grandson's mates (and the lad) are as thick as mud in the academic sense. I like the idea that my chip could sort them out in that sense. I would have withdrawn the boy from secondary school if the academic stuff was all (he knows almost none of it) - but we are very reluctant to test what '20 years of child-minding' has produced in a graduate student. I suspect my chip would be pretty small if it only had to contain the knowledge of, say, as 25 year old with a PhD. As Molly says, this is hardly all intelligence is about. Some of us working with computers do think biological intelligence is about to change. I think we may have misjudged what education is really about. Of course, we'd need some way of interface with the chip. A few academics are having implants, but I know little of this research. We are also approaching natural language processing-programming that would improve and ease extra-somatic communication.
Intuition is still a vague term. I can see something of it in the 'eye' Facil has offered. On Sunday, 28 September 2014 17:18:52 UTC+1, Molly wrote: > > Good questions. What makes us individuals? Would we be much different if > we all had the same "knowledge" base? Would an extensive and common > knowledge base lead to "knowing" what we are looking at? Perception and > knowledge are intertwined but I do not think that perception is totally > dependent on knowledge, rather, also affected by intuition and innate > intelligence. > > On Sunday, September 28, 2014 11:50:58 AM UTC-4, archytas wrote: >> >> Amazing constructions Facil. I sometimes think 'our' foreign policy >> might deconstruct to 'plastic'. We might have a great metaphor for Star >> Trek in the construction of a credible space sculpture from 40 items of >> household plastic! I'm probably not far off myself in thinking of >> genetically engineered cyborgs taking advantage of such as polar bear >> hibernation mechanisms in the hostile space environment - adapting material >> from our current environment. The question of what we are 'looking at' >> arises again. We tend to think of hibernation as 'long term sleeping', yet >> the underlying mechanisms concern nitrogen recycling done to keep such as >> muscles in shape and polar bears can enter hibernation mode whilst active >> and moving about to help cope with the Arctic. >> >> In science soap fiction, we tend to put ourselves, perhaps as characters >> from Attic tragedy into a future this 'we' could not survive into. >> Questions that arise for me include whether I would have swapped school >> and various years in university courses, research and teaching for a cyber >> chip with the knowledge I assimilated in it. I'd go for the chip, but also >> wonder on what such would mean for those we standardly fail in these >> processes and so-called meritocracy connections in education. I can >> probably plot out a 28 year 'flight' in a relativity bubble to the edge of >> the universe (an Australian estimate) with a lot of effort, but would I >> bother with a reliable cyber-node? What would argument become with us all >> much more knowing creatures? >> >> On Saturday, 27 September 2014 21:42:15 UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: >>> >>> Yes. Man is not designed for space. ;o) but there will evolve small >>> groups capable of the transition. They will have small communities >>> throughout the earth and its oceans, they will quietly develop a small >>> space station developing one for deep space independent life of this world >>> and the reality that has been created. >>> You are right man is not fit for space. >>> >>> Allan >>> Living Soul >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 2:51 PM >>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: alien scrutiny and Facilitator's 'artist' >>> >>> We tend to create conditions in space-time flight that at least resemble >>> those close to the Earth and the parochial conditions of gravity. >>> Biologically, we are remarkably unsuited to space-time flight other than >>> on our planet. Facil's stuff is great, though we could argue we might need >>> to start in non-human perception and something less visual. Some creatures >>> seem to be navigating here on the basis of distant stars or the Milky Way >>> (dung beetles are an example). Much 'perceiving' these days has >>> extra-somatic components. and art might shift to what we are not >>> perceiving. >>> >>> On Saturday, 27 September 2014 08:53:51 UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>> >>>> I like the drawings but i think they are kind of old school. They are >>>> missing some basic needs. Other than centrifugal force. >>>> A deep space platforms of say a design similar a bike tire would >>>> create the much needed gravity. (I see all the yadda about artificial >>>> gravity but no how to accomplish its' creation.) >>>> A rotating tire concept is also the easiest way maintain balance .. >>>> Food can easily provided by hydroponics. Power provided by nuclear power >>>> potentially housing millions of people. This would create their own >>>> civilization.. >>>> Hmm >>>> Several platforms and larger ones will perfectly allow for on going >>>> wars.. Peace and harmony do not go well with greed and domination so >>>> present today. >>>> >>>> Allan >>>> Living Soul >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: "'facilitator' via \"Minds Eye\"" <[email protected]> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Sent: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 8:49 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: alien scrutiny and Facilitator's 'artist' >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-zg1xxsHxY7k/VCZd227kx9I/AAAAAAAAADE/5Ktjilh92Y0/s1600/Murray_Ganymede_EntryA.jpg> >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-KkXYBDqrspY/VCZduNqDTdI/AAAAAAAAAC8/Bq6M5BOMYg4/s1600/Murray_Voyage%2BHome_EntryB.jpg> >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-BMk-Up7S2C0/VCZdoBI81PI/AAAAAAAAAC0/k05WAjUkuZ8/s1600/Murray_Caution%2BAdvised_EntryC.jpg> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:15:37 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote: >>>>> >>>>> That's today Andrew. Can we question beyond the singularity in which >>>>> even this cycle breaks down? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> -- >>> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
