That's a very interesting question.  I believe it possible in future 
conditions, but not now.  We would need honest currency first and there is 
none.  Andrew's Bitcoin - as opposed to the real one - might do the job. 
 Countries that allow lots of foreign investment (which gets denominated in 
USD) nearly always end up shafted by a collapse in their own currency, as 
is happening to Russia now.  This need not happen to a collective and there 
must be a working model at Mondragon in Northern Spain and at various 
centres of cooperative knowledge.  I want us to move on to fully funded 
cooperatives using positive money not created by banks and that can't be 
used in currency wars.

On Monday, January 5, 2015 10:53:45 AM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>
> I agree with that.. it has left me wondering if an economic guideline 
> could be created for an cooperative community with outside financial 
> connection. 
>
> ~~
> تجنب القتل أو الاغتصاب أو استعباد الآخرين
> Avoid murder, rape or enslaving others
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: archytas <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 11:27 AM
> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye 2015
>
> I suspect we may have survived behind shields of innocence Allan - no harm 
> in that.
>
> On Sunday, January 4, 2015 7:01:59 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>
>> I see your blog  am looking forwrd to reading it.
>>
>> ~~
>> لا القتل، والاغتصاب أو استعباد الآخرين
>> Do not murder,  rape or enslave others
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 4:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye 2015
>>
>> Just don't let the fish get behind you Allan.  It seems one Gabriella 
>> Thiede is a former pupil and headmistress at St Trinian's, though other 
>> origins suggest Gabby may be a sobriquet for 'gift of the gob', though I 
>> can only find rap sheets from Durham and Glasgow, not Liverpool. The Chief 
>> Barker is thinking of remaindering the case to Clousseau.
>>
>> On Sunday, January 4, 2015 1:59:45 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>
>>> Hmm does that mean i can give daily numerology readings? Daily ; o.  
>>> Need to dig out the books..  let me see..
>>>
>>> ~~
>>> لا القتل، والاغتصاب أو استعباد الآخرين
>>> Do not murder,  rape or enslave others
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Sent: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 2:38 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye 2015
>>>
>>> Free to yap at last.  Knee Toe is Facil in reverse.  It was all 
>>> predicted once the entangled spin was understood.  Now we are twinned 
>>> Gabby.  Does this mean you walk on your hands unless I go base over apex? 
>>>  Now I'm a dog, do I get away with wolf-whistles - sadly hypothetical on 
>>> grounds of missing teeth and inclination.  Gabby has all the clues Allan, 
>>> she just won't share any in our game of Cluedo, waiting for me to bite the 
>>> butler or nearest Johnny Foreigner as a Brutish police dog must.  It's all 
>>> Scotch envy because we invented porridge (from dried Silverweed root before 
>>> German cultivated grass seed) and our fish penetrative sex owing to poor 
>>> television reception off the Orkneys in 385 million BCE.  When you can work 
>>> that out fromTarot cards and hand-drawn astrology charts and know the world 
>>> was created complete with fossil record and memories long after the fish 
>>> got frisky, we will know whodunit.  No doubt that black guy seen running 
>>> away by the blind beggar.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 4 January 2015 11:30:05 UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hmmm  does that mean I can say whatever i want snd gabby has no 
>>>> clue...   
>>>> ;o).....  interesting very interesting. .
>>>>
>>>> ~~
>>>> لا القتل، والاغتصاب أو استعباد الآخرين
>>>> Do not murder,  rape or enslave others
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: gabbydott <[email protected]>
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Sent: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 12:03 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye 2015
>>>>
>>>> I was not aware of the deep impact the pressing of the spam button had 
>>>> on you. A playful group dog has surely helped you to ease the pain. Find 
>>>> me 
>>>> knee to toe.
>>>> Am 04.01.2015 06:52 schrieb "archytas" <[email protected]>:
>>>>
>>>>> Ad hom is in almost everything.  At its most crass it is to dismiss 
>>>>> Einstein as 'Jewish science'.  We don't understand argument and even to 
>>>>> point to this - even in academic research (Dan Sperber is an example) - 
>>>>> becomes personal attack on the basis of claiming to know more than any 
>>>>> cloying consensus of nodding donkey manners.  Gabby falls short on her 
>>>>> own 
>>>>> standards of mixing bottles and silversmith poking.  Even Miss Marple is 
>>>>> prejudiced against murderers, a risible attitude in Gabbsy's uberfreedom 
>>>>> punch line jibes she could be relied on not to use in practical reasoning 
>>>>> sat on a jury deciding on crimes we hadn't committed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes Allan, we are not paedophile penguins - at least not most of us 
>>>>> (one of my cases involved something just as bad as those recorded by one 
>>>>> member of the Scott of the Antarctic troop).  The 'dirt' was even left 
>>>>> out 
>>>>> of the book on the penguins made up from his notes.  What of the mens rea 
>>>>> of the guy not a paedophile after removal of a brain tumour?  We are not 
>>>>> good learners from biology - most evading this by never learning any. Why 
>>>>> bother when people would rather listen to card readers?  Is this how 
>>>>> Gabbs 
>>>>> gets her cut of the golden calf, is it a way of exerting ironic 
>>>>> superiority 
>>>>> as pearls cast before we Gatherine swine, or am I projecting projections 
>>>>> in 
>>>>> a world made of Freudian same?  Plato can be read as plays about crusty 
>>>>> old 
>>>>> farts having a 'laugh' watching naked gymnastics of unwitting 
>>>>> would-be-leaders exposed to husbandry in the ritual training of the 
>>>>> Guardians, never knowing the 'cunning plan'.  Gabby has one not very 
>>>>> original analysis of us mate, inviting the vulnerable return of the knife 
>>>>> in the sure confidence of the martial artist feminist hating white men 
>>>>> and 
>>>>> waiting to rush off to the salvation of the Taliban life for women.  We 
>>>>> might, unkindly, think we are merely too old and cast the ageist stone.  
>>>>> Or 
>>>>> be pissed off that your Arabic attracts idiots Molly has to moderate if I 
>>>>> haven't plinked them to trash without 100% rationality of the embraced 
>>>>> paradox.
>>>>>
>>>>> So sorry not to be perfection Gabby. You can be an Idol on my golden 
>>>>> wall anytime.  I haven't read as many ancient texts as Al, but I take it 
>>>>> we 
>>>>> all know how incompetent all the King's horses and all the King's men are 
>>>>> when an Idol falls.  Whilst I know nothing, even this is to know more 
>>>>> than 
>>>>> an egg with a passion for hopping on slippery walls wielding a pointy 
>>>>> stick 
>>>>> in all directions.  Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.  One can eat eggs for 
>>>>> breakfast.  I just like the way Al scrambles them, is all.  You point 
>>>>> very 
>>>>> well to who casts the first stone in language.  So why not a piece on why 
>>>>> we never see newsroom auto-cue readers in wheelchairs?
>>>>>
>>>>> It is not enough to point out the superiority of our rationality to 
>>>>> biology - it is biological.  
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, January 3, 2015 10:02:06 PM UTC, Gabby wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only ones you don't personally attack are your masters here, the 
>>>>>> only feedback givers you would listen to. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am Samstag, 3. Januar 2015 schrieb :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gabby I have never attacked you Gabby. I may push your buttons.  And 
>>>>>>> you are welcome to push mine,, have fun.. ; o)  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What double standards are you referring too?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ~~
>>>>>>> لا القتل، والاغتصاب أو استعباد الآخرين
>>>>>>> Do not murder,  rape or enslave others
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: gabbydott <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sat, 03 Jan 2015 10:39 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye 2015
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't. I criticize double standards  - as a means to secure 
>>>>>>> privileges, for instance.
>>>>>>> Check this "explanation" :
>>>>>>> if the desire is hidden will the seed effect. The result of quantum 
>>>>>>> entaglement
>>>>>>> And compare it to the bad luck for a German explanation in the next 
>>>>>>> posting. Normal personal attacking of members here by Allan, whereas 
>>>>>>> absent terrorists get their approved of sig line cure through quantum 
>>>>>>> entanglement. 
>>>>>>> And you keep petting his head or wait silently and patiently until 
>>>>>>> the sun will make the dark clouds disappear. How convenient.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am Samstag, 3. Januar 2015 schrieb archytas :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How do we know about "wrong" Allan?  I'm not suggesting we don't, 
>>>>>>>> though think of 'The Penguins of Madagascar'  - there are no actual 
>>>>>>>> penguins there and the cure little heroic blighters of the film have 
>>>>>>>> some 
>>>>>>>> very nasty habits in nature (some even 'raping' newly born).  I always 
>>>>>>>> think Gabby warns us of the rush to knowledge - a common 
>>>>>>>> deconstructive 
>>>>>>>> theme.  The answers are surely more difficult than some soppy 
>>>>>>>> emotional 
>>>>>>>> feeling or the spin of sub-atomic particles.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Saturday, January 3, 2015 8:49:19 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You are right Neil..do and don'ts unfortunately it is all vermin 
>>>>>>>>> want to understand. Terrorist want to kill, rape and enslave others.  
>>>>>>>>> The 
>>>>>>>>> dogma and doctrine is twisted to justify their actions . The seed 
>>>>>>>>> removes 
>>>>>>>>> that permission. .
>>>>>>>>> Only those with those desires even if the desire is hidden will 
>>>>>>>>> the seed effect. The result of quantum entaglement
>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ~~
>>>>>>>>> لا القتل، والاغتصاب أو استعباد الآخرين
>>>>>>>>> Do not murder,  rape or enslave others
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sat, 03 Jan 2015 8:53 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye 2015
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I accept the point it is pretty useless telling vermin that would 
>>>>>>>>> do the don'ts not do do them.  Amongst my ants, some leave the nest 
>>>>>>>>> appearing drunk and then bite into a leaf at lunar noon and die 
>>>>>>>>> hanging on, 
>>>>>>>>> their mandibles atrophied. They may seem under control of unknown 
>>>>>>>>> tarot, 
>>>>>>>>> though we scientists prefer to think it is the fungus that then grows 
>>>>>>>>> out 
>>>>>>>>> of their heads, forming a spike.  There is even a further fungus that 
>>>>>>>>> castrates the first one, ensuring the supply of these Zombie ants.  
>>>>>>>>> Al's 
>>>>>>>>> sig line might be oriented against micro-organisms that can't read - 
>>>>>>>>> certainly, one can say, against pond life. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, January 3, 2015 7:40:24 PM UTC, Gabby wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But you have Allan with his permeating don'ts enumeration to hold 
>>>>>>>>>> against. Don't complain, I would want to add.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2015-01-03 15:30 GMT+01:00 archytas <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not much Linke left in the UK.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2015 may be the year we 'discover' all the ghost factories in 
>>>>>>>>>>> China, looking an awful lot like the old steel plantations across 
>>>>>>>>>>> Europe 
>>>>>>>>>>> and the US around 1970.  German cars will have to be made in 
>>>>>>>>>>> Russian 
>>>>>>>>>>> factories because they have the gas and cheap Rouble to pay workers 
>>>>>>>>>>> with.  
>>>>>>>>>>> Saudi Arabia and Israel will be at war with and Iran with Pakistani 
>>>>>>>>>>> V2 and 
>>>>>>>>>>> thermo-nuclear technology developed with US Aid.  The North of 
>>>>>>>>>>> England 
>>>>>>>>>>>  will have and extended, dry summer ...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 3 January 2015 09:01:16 UTC, Gabby wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand you have your 2015 secured. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Checked.
>>>>>>>>>>>
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