Bias due to color is present even among Asians. People over here tend to
appreciate  the fair among us , I don't see why?

On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 11:52 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:

> Even limping with Pegida (here the English Defence League) one doesn't
> find much outright racism.  People are concerned about their own economic
> situation, fears of Asian mobbing and actually disgusting practices in
> child abuse, female castration, forced marriages, honour killings, kids not
> being able to move into their own housing, cooking smells, noise, crime,
> not feeling at home in their own streets and the swamping of school,
> welfare and health services.  The lack of jobs, depression of wages and
> much more is on people's minds.  These people may be right of wrong.  For
> years, they have been considered wrong and racist, though in the main, they
> are the people I've found actually living with these problems and with
> other cultures at their doorstep.
>
> We are told that immigration is good for us and that high-level skills are
> imported.  440 Germans died to a man at Waterloo after emigrating here, the
> NHS is staffed by Asian and other 'third world' staff trained abroad.  All
> this stuff has hidden content, not least on how it is we can't train our
> own people, even to run corner shops, drive taxis and run fast food
> businesses - and how third world countries don't need the doctors and
> nurses.  People who would never dream of open racist comment attend church
> and do almost anything not to have their white kids attend predominately
> ethnic schools.  Faith schools are built, so keen are some to integrate.
>
> Politicians of the right have sensed the dissatisfaction and have moved to
> UKIP.  No one remembers, but the UK had a major civil war over 'race'
> (religion) in Northern Ireland based on many of these factors between the
> privileged Proddies and exploited Provos.  This scales up on a per capita
> basis to 100,000 mainland deaths or half-a-million in the USA.  Idi Amin
> exiled 80,000 Asians and Fiji had a military coup.  Israel has chronic
> apartheid.  Black people are unhappy in various ghettos and often in prison
> in the US.
>
> I've seen far more racism abroad than in the West.  We haven't done enough
> to get rid of it.  Yet we seem to assume this is a white on others matter
> and it is not.  The problems in my view are deeply economic and
> ideological.  They are so deep I doubt we can eat a tin of tuna or make a
> mobile phone call without being involved in this 'racism'.
>
> And very deep in this 'racism' quickly re-emerges in peoples who have
> lived peacefully side by side for years.
>
> On Thursday, January 22, 2015 at 11:36:32 AM UTC, archytas wrote:
>>
>> Martin Luther King is in our thoughts at this time of year.  I've never
>> been able to hack racism, yet feel there is little honest discussion of the
>> matter.  It is still in place all over the world, though in the UK it is
>> not as obvious as in my youth and there have been improvements.  I have two
>> problems in mind:
>>
>> 1. The situation is rarely viewed from the perspective of poor indigenous
>> people suffering housing problems, work and wage pressures - now including
>> many ethnic minorities
>> 2. The meritocracy system we have is based on a flawed concept and is
>> easily cheated by educational advantages, inheritance and class-based
>> networking.
>>
>> Few here are now openly race prejudiced, yet it remains easy to see many
>> problems remain.  I won't be watching either of the next two soccer world
>> cups because they are in profoundly racist countries, but most don't care
>> enough to boycott such.  Any views out there?
>>
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