http://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/philosophy/thomas-nagel-mind-and-cosmos-review-leiter-nation

Might be of interest to anyone needing to know we are still scientifically 
clueless on consciousness.  

On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 6:25:45 AM UTC, archytas wrote:
>
> I hope we have some intelligent purpose, though we may believe this for 
> purposes of comfort.  I expect Allan and I have been in a few holes with 
> little more than belief left, but this is not the same as modernity driven 
> by superiority and misplaced certainty in our models.
>
> On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 5:04:07 AM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>
>> Beliefs arevwhat allows one to maintain focus and direction especially in 
>> modernization. 
>>
>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres
>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 5:35 AM
>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: God
>>
>> Even the notion of creation is problematic.  Big bang seems an incident 
>> in a much longer history.  Belief does not help when one is underestimating 
>> complexity, as in many big modernisation programmes.
>>
>> On Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:10:10 UTC, RP Singh wrote:
>>>
>>> The best a man can do is to talk about his beliefs but people who have a 
>>> closed mind think that it is shoving down their throats , a very negative 
>>> attitude indeed. A person has to learn , unlearn and then relearn and I 
>>> don't think that a person with a negative attitude can do any of these.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 8:51 PM, 'facilitator' via "Minds Eye" <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Only a fool would shove their beliefs down someone's throat, better to 
>>>> cram it into their ears !' (™) 
>>>>
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