The test of delusion is that you think it is real , if you are doubtful
then you don't have it. When a person doesn't believe his thinking to be
true he is normal , it is only when abnormal thinking is considered to be
real and true then it is delusion.

On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 5:45 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:

> That could be a true delusion in your case Allan.  In your permanently
> deluded state you know everything about delusion, but are deluded into
> thinking you don't.  My recommendations as the therapist you think is your
> second head are:
> 1. drop the axe and the gun
> 2. look in the mirror and ask that guy you see as someone else to fix the
> injuries if you didn't do 1.
> 3, get the coffee ready as I'm deluded too and coming round to discuss
> whether knowing our delusory incompetence puts us on a better footing in
> recovery than the rest of the group, who are deluded into thinking
> themselves sane and above this discussion ...
>
>
> On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 10:41:24 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>
>> Delusions is something I have little understanding of..
>>
>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres
>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Sat, 07 Feb 2015 11:18 PM
>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: Delusions
>>
>> I agree Tony - it's a point missing from the literature.  Joan of Arc, if
>> she was ever real.  Whatever delusion systems are, there are positive and
>> negative sides.  In some models delusion is the correct adaptation to
>> circumstances.  Stimulus is difficult to work out though - hit me with a
>> brick and I might start to produce great sculptures - same for you might
>> stop you.
>>
>> On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 9:00:19 PM UTC, facilitator wrote:
>>>
>>> Wouldn't a foundation of delusion be part of the brains ability to
>>> calculate, predict, surmise and therefore be necessary?  Competitiveness
>>> would drive this as well.  Knowing the odds against oneself and under some
>>> form of delusion, proceeding.  A team that has no chance of winning, a
>>> political campaign, a war?   Delusions are maintained because people have
>>> hope beyond reason.  It is a driving factor.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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