That is not correct Neil.. historically politics is linked to religion in an 
effort to justify bad or incorrect behavior.

تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others

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From: gabbydott <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Presence

That's right, Neil. Could you please inform Molly about this correlation?!
Thank you.

Am Samstag, 28. Februar 2015 schrieb archytas :

> There are old arguments about that Gabby (Spinoza etc).  Religion is
> historically linked with politics.
>
> On Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 1:52:05 PM UTC, Gabby wrote:
>>
>> It might be worth looking into your rejecting seeing God and politics in
>> a non-dual view.
>>
>> Am Samstag, 28. Februar 2015 schrieb Molly :
>>
>> My idea of god has nothing to do with politics. I do think spirit speaks
>> to us, leading us, presenting us with symbols and circumstance to lead us
>> toward transcendence of duality, where good will, will to good and divine
>> will are a trinity of what is manifest. Words fail us eventually because we
>> continue to speak in terms that connote separation from each other and god
>> when trying to convey the unity there.
>>
>> When I find something coming into my experience repeatedly and obviously
>> it gets my attention, and I start looking for the deeper meaning. I've
>> found that if I catch on sooner, the later crash or catastrophe to get my
>> attention is averted. One way or another, we are led by spirit. Some say
>> fate or destiny or archetypal symbolism or unconscious to conscious
>> movement. Whatever the model, there is a rich history of humans pondering
>> how God speaks to us.
>>
>> On Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 7:35:17 AM UTC-5, Molly wrote:
>>
>> It is an interesting notion to ponder, how does God speak to us? My
>> friend and mentor recently spoke about it to all of his visitors before
>> passing away last summer. I told him that if the measure of whether or not
>> a person can hear God speaking is all of the good they have done in the
>> world, then he had done some life long listening. He taught us all how to
>> collaborate and build consensus, create systems and institutions that work
>> for people, organize communities and make them good places to raise our
>> families. Quite a lifetime achievement.
>>
>> On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 10:27:21 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote:
>>
>> Does the timetable show when the next train is coming Facil?
>>
>> On Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 2:27:14 AM UTC, facilitator wrote:
>>
>> First you say God is a spirit then you want me to give you times when God
>> came down. Which?
>>
>> On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 6:57:45 PM UTC-5, RP Singh wrote:
>>
>> Jesus, Mohammad were prophets, so tell us when God came down.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:56 PM, 'facilitator' via "Minds Eye" <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> God comes "down" all the time.  In fact, that would have to be an
>> attribute of an omnipotent. We are the ones limited by time and space.
>> Giving God an image of our viewpoint is called an "Idol".
>>
>> On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 12:25:29 PM UTC-5, RP Singh wrote:
>>
>> I don't think God has ever come down to talk to man, so as a necessity we
>> have to give him an image according to our viewpoint.
>>
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