A scientist in some senses is prostrated before the evidence Molly. On Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 7:47:49 PM UTC, Molly wrote: > > The Logos is God,[Jn 1:1] > <http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jn+1%3A1&version=ESV> as > Thomas stated: "My Lord and my God."[20:28] > <http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jn+20%3A28&version=ESV> Yet > the Logos is in some sense distinguishable from God, for "the Logos was > with God."[1:1] > <http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jn+1%3A1&version=ESV> God > and the Logos are not two beings, and yet they are also not simply > identical. In contrast to the Logos, God can be conceived (in principle at > least) also apart from his revelatory action─although we must not forget > that the Bible speaks of God only in his revelatory action. The paradox > that the Logos is God and yet it is in some sense distinguishable from God > is maintained in the body of the Gospel. That God as he acts and as he is > revealed does not "exhaust" God as he is, is reflected in sayings > attributed to Jesus: I and the Father are one"[Jn 10:30] > <http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jn+10%3A30&version=ESV> and > also, "the Father is greater than I."[14:28] > <http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jn+14%3A28&version=ESV> The > Logos is God active in creation, revelation, and redemption. Jesus Christ > not only gives God's Word to us humans; he *is* the Word.[1:14] > <http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jn+1%3A14&version=ESV> [14:6] > <http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jn+14%3A6&version=ESV> He is > the true word─ultimate reality revealed in a Person. The Logos is God, > distinguishable in thought yet not separable in fact. > > No room for ego, arrogance or anything like it there. > > On Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 11:28:06 AM UTC-5, Allan Heretic wrote: > > Over the years the word of God in reality is the essence of God.. the > essence of what is said.. just what the essence of God is.. i have no clue > other than it does exist. > > What i feel is of great importance is to change the perspective of just > who or what God is.. one thing i am sure of is the common perspective is > not working.. > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: Molly <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 5:12 PM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Presence > > It isn't easy listening, authority imposed where there is none. I am not > interested in anyone telling me what to do or how to view myself, and > certainly am not looking for psychoanalysis. But I am interested in > listening to others views when presented as their own, even when filled > with dread and anger. I don't take it personally and wish the best for > everyone. > > I am interested in the Logos...the beginning word...the word as God, or > the meaning that passes between. You hit the nail on the head there, Allan. > > On Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 10:32:37 AM UTC-5, archytas wrote: > > That's rather close to Willard Quine Allan. The question is largely about > who receives whom in arrogance. The ignorant are often the most arrogant > of all. > > On Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 3:24:25 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: > > In christianity is the statement in the beginning was the word and the > word was with God. Sound familiar? > > I read that or hear statements like that what i hear is people that have > no clue and presenting double talk to appear to have an answer. Further > more they want no answer so any other possibility is automatically rejected. > > So if a possibility is presented it is rejected because for no other > reason than it does not fit your perception. > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: RP Singh <[email protected]> > To: Minds Eye <[email protected]> > Sent: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 3:30 PM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Presence > > Allan I rejected this answer because without the answer to the first > question it makes no sense. > Allan, I don't know what you make of God's omnipotence, but for me he has > the power to create without any raw material, unlike us poor people needing > God made sperms and eggs to create a life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 7:39 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > RP how can you expect an answer when you automatically reject the answer > you are given? Unless it fits the answer you want to hear.. > Let me ask you a question. You say the universe was created from the word > of God. What is contained within the Word of God that is able to create > the matter needed to create our universe? > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: RP Singh <[email protected]> > To: Minds Eye <[email protected]> > Sent: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 3:02 PM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Presence > > You have referred to my second question , but what about the first. > I don't understand how you draw the conclusion that God is speaking to us > for nowhere you have given the incident purporting that he so spoke. > > On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 7:13 PM, Molly < > > ...
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