Neil, are robots aware of sights and sounds like us or do they just
recognise such things without awareness?

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:34 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm not sure it has to do anything much to us Allan - though potentially
> it changes everything.  The machines could soon be biological - they can
> already record information as DNA.  Corrupting programs might be stopped by
> surveillance routines.  We could look at this as human, even soul
> enhancement and as educational.
>
>
> On Monday, 2 March 2015 07:35:34 UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>
>> AI sounds cool.. several problems though it would be easy to program
>> violence in, the manipulation show with out a chip is going to suddenly
>> change with a chip.  RIGHT!
>>
>> The other problem is the soul..  and the mix or no soul  pure AI will it
>> contain a soul?
>>
>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Mon, 02 Mar 2015 8:09 AM
>> Subject: Mind's Eye Moral Enhancement
>>
>> Humans developed to live in small communities - we were pretty murderous
>> in them and you now are exposed to only a tenth of the chance of dying a
>> violent death.  We are not well-equipped for today's global circumstances.
>> He are not much good at large scale collective moral problems.  Moral
>> enhancement in traditional form has been about education, religion or short
>> term drugs and lobotomy-type intervention.  Artificial intelligence is
>> another possibility.
>>
>> Far from proceeding in the rational way set as an ideal, most of our
>> moral views and decisions are made on immediate intuition, emotional
>> response and gut reactions. Reasoning, if we do it at all, is often just
>> rationalisation of what we intuitively thought anyway. To overcome our
>> biological and psychological limitations, we could develop moral artificial
>> intelligence.
>>
>> Many are very scared of this, perhaps because they know they are not
>> strong moral agents.  Some think such machines would recognise us for what
>> we are (a danger to the planet) and kill us off.  Given our potential to do
>> this to each other, I'm dismissive of the machine problem.  MIA could
>> monitor a lot more than we manage as humans and point out personal bias and
>> advise on the right course of action according to human moral values.
>> Agent-tailored MIA would preserve moral pluralism and help the individual's
>> autonomy by removing the restriction of her psychology.
>>
>> I have volunteered Gabby for the first MIA chip (no wait, that was
>> Cartman with the V chip in South Park).  In fact, AI is a;ready helping
>> with a lot of learning.  We are introducing AI into fraud management
>> systems with patents being filed - http://www.freepatentsonline.com/
>> 20150032589.pdf - car driving, medical and dental analysis, narrative
>> generation in entertainment - http://eprints.hud.ac.uk/23153/1/118.pdf
>> - Big Data will drive Big HPC and Complex Analytics. Supercomputers of the
>> future will need to: (1) Quantify the uncertainty associated with the
>> behaviour of complex systems-of-systems (e.g. hurricanes, nuclear disaster,
>> seismic exploration, engineering design) and thereby predict outcomes (e.g.
>> impact of intervention actions, business implications of design choices);
>> (2) Learn and refine underlying models based on constant monitoring and
>> past outcomes; and (3) Provide real-time interactive visualization and
>> accommodate “what if” questions in real-time. This will require an
>> evolution in algorithm and system design, as well as even chip
>> architectures to manage the power-performance trade-offs needed to attain a
>> new era of Cognitive Supercomputing.
>>
>> Heads in the sand on this folks?  Or would you have the "implant" like me
>> if one was available?
>>
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