On 2026/08/30 15:44, Pali Rohár wrote:
> On Sunday 30 August 2026 03:24:26 Kirill Makurin wrote:
>> Zhongteng Gui <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, I found that many libraries provided by mingw-w64-crt are actually 
>>> empty,
>>> for example, libmingwthrd and libmoldname. Unfortunately, they're still
>>> hardcoded in GCC's default specs, so I'd like to first remove them from 
>>> there,
>>> then maybe in the future we can remove them from mingw-w64.
>>
>> These empty libraries are kept exactly to avoid breaking older gcc/clang 
>> versions, as they hardcode them.
> 
> Exactly. Those libraries need to stay here to make sure that older gcc
> versions will work.

Fine, I understand these libraries cannot be removed from mingw-w64 for a long
time, I just want to be sure they're useless now, so I can remove them from new
GCC's specs.

I've submitted a slightly modified patch at
https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=127135

> 
>> We also had briefly discussed an idea to move contents of libmingwex.a 
>> directly into import libraries (e.g. libucrt.a). The interaction between 
>> libmingwex.a and import libraries sometimes causes linker errors, e.g. when 
>> LTO is involved and import library references symbol from libmingwex.a or 
>> vice versa. If we did this, we would have to similarly make libmingwex.a 
>> empty so that older gcc/clang versions continue to work.
> 
> I like this idea. But I'm still not sure if this would not cause other
> issues.
> 
> What I know is that there is still one problem that some symbols are
> duplicated in libmingwex.a and in individual CRT DLL import libs. I have
> tried to clean it up, but as I have figured out few days ago I found new
> such symbols (e.g. _Exit).

I think this is a good idea. Currently every libraries (mingw32, mingwex,
msvcrt, etc.) are linked twice to solve circular dependencies in GCC (implicit)
and Clang (explicit). If we finished this in the future maybe we could remove
the duplicate linking from newer GCC and Clang.

> 
>> Pali (CC'd) may also have something to say about it.
>>
>> - Kirill Makurin



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