Sounds better to just pass buffers around although I'm not keen on any change that doesn't make progress on the performance bottleneck LP: #1253868. The bottleneck is the swapping/exchanging approach which limits the client to holding only one buffer, so I don't think it's a good idea for new designs to still have that problem.

In order to improve parallelism per LP: #1253868 you'd really have to receive new buffers as soon as they're free, which means getting them as MirEvents. Then you only need an RPC function to release them back to the server:

   rpc release_buffer(Buffer) returns (Void);

Keep in mind the inter-process communication is the bottleneck here. If you allow a context switch between the server and client then that's half to one millisecond (see mirping) per RPC round trip. More than double that for nested servers and you see the protocol delay could be a significant factor. So I think any protocol enhancement should have parallelism designed in.

I also think we need to be careful about not landing any protocol changes to RTM candidate series' 0.4-0.5, so the foundation for RTM is maximally mature (albeit not yet optimal).

- Daniel


On 08/07/14 21:10, Kevin DuBois wrote:
Hello mir team,

In order to get the next buffer for the client, we currently have:

rpc next_buffer(SurfaceId) returns (Buffer);

which is problematic for me in working on [1] because this implicitly
releases the buffer from the client side, whereas in working on that
performance improvement, I have to send a fd back to the server. So I
was thinking of adding an rpc method more like:

rpc exchange_buffer(Buffer) returns (Buffer);

This would be sufficient to pass the fd fence back, and the buffer id in
the Buffer protocol message would be sufficient for the server to figure
out which surface has sent back its buffer. (given the global buffer
id's we're using)

This does not address the problem noted in:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1253868
but I think that might be better addressed by having an exchange type
rpc call (explicit or implicit) and negotiating/increasing how many
buffers the client owns somehow else.

This seems like something that could have diverse opinions, so I'm
hoping to get some input on the protocol change here first.

Thanks!
Kevin

[1]
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1410-mir-performance item:
"[kdub] fencing improvements for clients add the ipc plumbing"



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