restart away good man it is a topic that should be discussed because we
honestly should beable to set when it decides to reject since as some one
pointed out 5% of a 1tb disk is like 50gigs, and no where near full.


On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Gilles Chehade <[email protected]> wrote:

> This has not been forgotten, the conversation with fellow hackers has led
> to nowhere but I'm about to restart it with a diff :-)
>
> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 03:35:56AM -0700, Barbier, Jason wrote:
> > > Hmm, I see.
> > >
> > >  at worst you now locked yourself out.
> > >>
> > > I've already got the ext4 reserved blocks covering for that. Of
> > > course, not every file system has something like that.
> > >
> > Even with reserve blocks it is still quite possible to fill the disk up
> > past the reserve blocks. Never rely on a feature like that to save you
> from
> > yourself ;), Ive had a few systems that were a fun disaster because the
> > disk hit 105% full.
> >
> >
> > >
> > >  But also every MTA does this also and you will be hard pressed to find
> > >> one that doesn't.
> > >>
> > > Indeed. postfix, for example, has a limit of 1.5 ?? message_size_limit.
> > > Way more sane, imho.
> > >
> > Im not advising the limit is sane, it should/could be a knob, which is
> > probably a discussion to have now. To be fair I as the admin should be
> able
> > to decide how much I want to fill my queue folder, since in all fairness
> my
> > queue folder could not be in /var/spool I could have moved it to a san
> > where it shares space with other mission critical applications and has 50
> > terabytes of storage, and I really don't care if the disk fills past 5%
> > because really it wont effect anything for the disk to get to near zero
> and
> > I will always be able to recover from it filling.
> >
> >
> > >
> > >  but that means your script or app needs to learn to be more resilient
> > >>
> > > Any standard solutions for cron/at to do that?
> > >
> > Standard no, many ideas, yes. If you just bebop around the internet there
> > are many great examples of scripts that are resiliant. Since Im not sure
> > what your scripts are written in I can only give you generic advice which
> > is if you use the sendmail sender as the wrapper it should return a
> > success/fail result and you could case or if/else for that result so it
> > becomes in essence:
> > Check for unsent queue and try to send
> > Try to send new mail
> > if Success exit
> > if fail count=1 try again
> > if fail count=2 write mail to disk (maybe pickup directory so it will get
> > sent at some point when the mailer recognizes it)
> >
> > --
> > Jason Barbier | [email protected]
> > Pro Patria Vigilans
>
> --
> Gilles Chehade
>
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>



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